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Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by throwaway123--4 » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:32 PM UTC

vb-8448 wrote: post #42

scifibestfi wrote: post #9

I'm trying to understand how big of a deal ChatGPT and the like is or isn't. Even people in AI don't seem to agree on whether it's going to change everything or it's overhyped and not a major advancement. Which is it? Or somewhere in the middle? "if you think AI chatter has reached an annoying level right now you're in for something else. it's going to be the only thing on anybody's mind starting shortly... i'm findi…

The main problem is that, if you don't know enough details about the domain, *you can never be sure that the response is correct or not*. So, if you are using it as a “personal assistant” and “supervise it” is a big (very big) deal since it's going to save a lot of time. There are also some unknowns related to the cost/time needed to train and run the infrastructure behind it that could change a lot of things.

how about with a stackoverflow like site for help? That's the idea I thought of: https://www.gptoverflow.link/

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by s_dev » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:33 PM UTC

I give a prompt I get an answer.

I give keywords I get a list of results.

Search Engine results were never guaranteed to be 'right' just relevant to the user to used the keywords. I'm not sure why ChatGPT has to have a 'higher bar' than Google but in either case a human was always needed to interpret the final output.

It's just super convenient and a LOT of people are missing this. ChatGPT is the first ever chatbot that 'doesn't suck' and that's massive progress however others wish to slice it or measure it.

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by 6keZbCECT2uB » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:34 PM UTC

simonw wrote: post #22

scifibestfi wrote: post #9

I'm trying to understand how big of a deal ChatGPT and the like is or isn't. Even people in AI don't seem to agree on whether it's going to change everything or it's overhyped and not a major advancement. Which is it? Or somewhere in the middle? "if you think AI chatter has reached an annoying level right now you're in for something else. it's going to be the only thing on anybody's mind starting shortly... i'm findi…

As a programmer, large language models let me solve an increasing range of problems that I couldn't have solved without them. So I think they are a very big deal. Just one example: parsing structured data out of a big pile of poorly formatted PDF documents. That used to be too difficult and expensive for me to tackle without a small army of data entry people to help do the work. Today I can point Textract OCR at it a…

I think that ChatGPT could be a big accelerator for creative activity, but I wouldn't trust any output that I've only partially verified. That limits it to human scale problems in its direct output, but there are many ways that human scale output like code snippets can be useful on computer scale data.

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by sebzim4500 » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:36 PM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #7

Can someone please write an HN browser extension or something that just hides anythign related to GPT?

Chat GPT could probably do that. At least if you gave it a sample of the html of the hackernews page.

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by heroHACK17 » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:38 PM UTC

On a recent episode of the All In podcast, one of the hosts made a remark along the lines of "in the future [when AI has replaced the knowledge worker], insatiable demand will exist for people who are experts in querying NLPs." I think we're seeing that here.

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by TchoBeer » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:41 PM UTC

simonw wrote: post #45

bored wrote: post #12

One day this will be as obvious as a "how to google" guide

You may be surprised at how much skill it takes to use Google effectively. A lot of people are really bad at using search engines.

Yeah, I've always had a knack for it but a lot of people in my family do not. It was a bit of a shock to me that the patterns you use to get what you want out of a search engine aren't obvious to most people, but I guess that's why search engines are tending away from structured queries like "or" searches.

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by Kiro » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:43 PM UTC

scottLobster wrote: post #39

scifibestfi wrote: post #9

I'm trying to understand how big of a deal ChatGPT and the like is or isn't. Even people in AI don't seem to agree on whether it's going to change everything or it's overhyped and not a major advancement. Which is it? Or somewhere in the middle? "if you think AI chatter has reached an annoying level right now you're in for something else. it's going to be the only thing on anybody's mind starting shortly... i'm findi…

IMO it's analogous to adaptive cruise control on cars. It's very useful in certain specific circumstances, and genuinely helpful. But not yet necessary or transformative unless you live in LA/sit in traffic for a living. People are claiming to use it to write code, I'm curious how sophisticated said code is. Sure it might take out of some of the grunt work, like an ultra-sophisticated find-and-replace, but you still…

Copilot is perfectly capable of understanding my extremely complex spaghetti code and give accurate suggestions based on the context spanning many files. It truly feels like you're doing pair programming with another human being.

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by leecoursey » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:45 PM UTC

heroHACK17 wrote: post #55

On a recent episode of the All In podcast, one of the hosts made a remark along the lines of "in the future [when AI has replaced the knowledge worker], insatiable demand will exist for people who are experts in querying NLPs." I think we're seeing that here.

Yep. The High Priests who, for an offering and proper supplication, will take your request to the Oracle.

Or maybe we will see something like, "Hey, ChatGPT1, formulate a question with appropriate qualifiers and specifications to get ChatGPT2 to return the following..."

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by lukev » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:48 PM UTC

omgomgomgomg wrote: post #34

Chatgpt certainly spits out answers and is often right or reasonably close to right. But it cant be trusted on complex tasks and I do not think it is a good AI, I have to repeat, this thing is supposed to be an AI,but it does the AI part very poorly. We all know it will trip over questions like what is the record for crossing the atlantic by car/foot and such. But I have realized there is no feedback loop, or a wrong…

That's because it's a large language model, not an AI.

Anyone calling it an AI is buying/selling the hype cycle, or (at best) using an over-general term for ML in general.

Re: ChatGPT Cheat Sheet

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Post by irthomasthomas » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:51 PM UTC

s_dev wrote: post #52

I give a prompt I get an answer. I give keywords I get a list of results. Search Engine results were never guaranteed to be 'right' just relevant to the user to used the keywords. I'm not sure why ChatGPT has to have a 'higher bar' than Google but in either case a human was always needed to interpret the final output. It's just super convenient and a LOT of people are missing this. ChatGPT is the first ever chatbot t…

It needs a higher bar commensurate to the cocaine-confidence it has been trained to portray. If it doesn't know the answer, it just dreams up something and then swears blind it's 100% true. That's problematic. If it could be trained to say no, and to give, say, a confidence score to its answers, then it will be much better.