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German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

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Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

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> It’s standard now but not the law In fact, surcharges are now prohibited by EU law (as long as the card is covered by the interchange cap): https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/finance-funding/making...

We’re talking about in the US here

The comment you're replying to is asking about the situation in Germany, and TFA is about Germany as well.

Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

#92

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Or in other words: A US company thinks the local requirements are not relevant to them, squeeze an amount of the GDP out of the countries and then complain that the locals complain? No fee applied could ever get the money back lost before.

When you want to look into how anti-globalization works, then look at Washington or Peking. Europe, due to its multi-tier law structure, is an amateur compared to these. The only reason why you are bothered by it, is that the European market is too big to be ignored and there are impacts like the GDPR etc.

Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

#93
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isn't that the same as credit cards not allowing to charge extra for using them? which btw is now also not allowed by EU rules.

That's also pretty anticompetitive ant it's crazy that this behavior has been tolerated for so long. Regulators have been asleep at the wheel.

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Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

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writting a code replaceming stamps do exist in Germany as well :P

Oh I have no doubt the US is uniquely behind several countries on this sort of quality of life innovation!

Every country has its flaws.

Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

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I love PayPal. It might be another be-evil type corporation. But it is just sooo convenient. I am just curious if there is some alternative to it in Germany. I don’t want to give my bank account number to every random online shop. Credit card yes, but I am too lazy for entering the numbers every time. Edit: I am not kenn on saving my credit card number somewhere digitally. Browser, password manager or a text file are…

It’s only convenient until you’re locked out of your account with no recourse.

Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

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I do not think it was ever allowed. EDIT: I did not realize you were talking specifically about Germany. In France you had a lot of "minimum 10€ to pay with CC", now this is mostly gone after COVID.

I think that rule disappeared long ago in the US because apparently people spend more with CC.

It's still alive and well in Washington State. It's sporadically used, mostly by gas stations and small stores when you use a credit card they will add a 50 cent fee or charge an extra dime a gallon for gas, things like that.

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True. Also sounds uncompetitive to me.

but this is what the EU seems to want. based on EU regulations surcharges at least for credit cards are illegal. the price for the consumer must be the same. for some reason it does not cover paypal though.

Because the member states of the EU, and countries in general, want a paper trail. This reduces lost taxes due to underreporting.

As such it would be foolish to allow shops to deincentivise that

Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

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In Europe we have working debit cards, so PayPal is redundant and hardly ever used.

??? the UK looooves paypal, both before and after brexit. I love paypal, and I live in the UK. Paypal is essentially the default checkout option on most websites, and supported pretty much everywhere. It is very, very handy as a consumer, but never in a million years would I sell using paypal (too many horror stories about frozen account and kafkaesque support staff)

I’ve never met anyone who has used PayPal in the UK. Why would you need to?

Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

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I do not think it was ever allowed. EDIT: I did not realize you were talking specifically about Germany. In France you had a lot of "minimum 10€ to pay with CC", now this is mostly gone after COVID.

I think that rule disappeared long ago in the US because apparently people spend more with CC.

It is also convenient for the vendor. Checks are a major hassle, check fraud apparently still a thing and cash comes with additional security implications. Don't let the vendor tell you that CC fees reduce their margin!

Re: German cartel office initiates proceedings against PayPal

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> See US company take giant market share in online payments in your country

What's PayPal actual market share in Germany? I'd guess it's used to pay US based vendors. Why would anyone use it to pay European vendors, when bank-to-bank transfers work (for 40+ years) fast (on-line before the WWW) and cheap?

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