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Re: Tell HN: Thank you for being fast, almost ad-free and text-only

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As others will be quick to point out, HN does have ads in the form of job postings for YCombinator startups that are delivered inline with the links on the front page. That said, it's relatively unobtrusive. And of course, the existence of HN is a large part of the marketing for YCombinator itself. Personally, I'll commend dang for doing a high-effort job at moderation, and tolerating all the dunking on Paul Graham t…

It is done with a lot for respect for the reader, and in a non intrusive way.

There's no profiling or targeting of users. Everyone sees the same ads.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for being fast, almost ad-free and text-only

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I know what you are saying and I agree and am grateful for it's existance but keep in mind that HN is a marketing tool of a big VC fund. It has money to pay a moderator and doesn't need to directly make money from it by putting ads or tracking scripts up like other sites.

Yes, and there are often YC company job postings on the front page, which are technically ads.

And there's a favicon so it's not text-only. /s

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for being fast, almost ad-free and text-only

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Bring back text only services! Everything should be accessible in some simple text UI that's simple and clean. I don't think that's possible by stripping back websites, maybe layers on RSS feeds, APIs with a new UX, etc, etc.

You may be interested by Gemini…

How does Gemini compare to Gopher?

Slightly related, HN is available via gopher://hngopher.com

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for being fast, almost ad-free and text-only

#36
My only (primary, continuous, and ignored) complaint is that OP's text post's contrast matches the contrast of less-useful comments, making every Self-HN post seem subconsciously and automatically downvoted.

It was "tradition,"? No, it's archaic and ironic for a site with so many A11y/accessibility advocates.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for being fast, almost ad-free and text-only

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post #17

Well, actually, it's not "ad-free". There are fairly regular job ads for YCombinator companies on the home page.

But:

1. Not within articles or threads. Contrast, say, the Washington Post which is currently inserting ... four ... ad placements per story ... and that's just within the text of a story itself. That excludes other interstitial nags ("see also" which are often very thinly-related if at all items), sign-ups, pop-ups, etc.

(I'd recalled this being higher, four is still a few too many, but less than I'd thought.)

And it's not just the ads themselves, but the motivations created around them for clickbait, sensationalism, etc., etc.

Contextually-appropriate service-oriented (e.g., jobs) notices ... seem a highly reasonable option. Note too that HN also runs a free "who's hiring" and "who wants to be hired" thread monthly.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for being fast, almost ad-free and text-only

#38

Agreed, I wish more sites were like HN, fast, free and ad-free, text only and no bullshit algorithmic garbage shoved in my face. All it needs is dark mode and it's perfect.

My dark-mode tweak: https://pastebin.com/6PF3dCXH>

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for being fast, almost ad-free and text-only

#39

Reddits "new UI" is so bad, surprised they're still trying to save it.

Once Old.Reddit and third party apps like Apollo go away, I'm done with Reddit. I'm already interested in competitors if anything crops up that might be a suitable replacement.

Unfortunately they're already funneling rich media into their own broken solutions, so things like streaming video is unreliable if people upload it to Reddit directly.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for being fast, almost ad-free and text-only

#40

Reddits "new UI" is so bad, surprised they're still trying to save it.

It's kinda embarrassing. It's been I don't know how many years, and pasting text in the comment field still breaks the new reddit UI. I don't know how to explain it. Does everyone on the new reddit dev team use old.reddit.com so they don't notice this extremely obvious bug?

Yeah, I find so many bugs in reddit that it's surprising to me that a more streamlined replacement hasn't arisen.

But I get shouted down if I say my experience with Elon's buggy Twitter 2.0 is about on par with how my reddit experience has been for years and yet reddit is still massively popular. Shrug.

I guess it's hard to believe that sometimes market conditions can overcome bad engineering and then you add all the politics around Twitter's layoffs and people get raw.

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