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Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

#71

I am happy with the synology server i have at home. I don't have to setup the server on my own but sftp, docker, nginx is included already. Mostly i just use it as remote storage for files.

I not only run one of these in my office, but am also converting smaller business clients to this platform. It is able to do quite a few services on its own (in addition to the Microsoft AD structure I have been nursing along for over 30 years to make sure I grok most of my MS-based clients' needs).

The only caveat is it is not a good development platform for me with regards to Python - Their file structure, update process, etc. tends to break any development environments I set up. I still roll out a vm or dedicated box for dev work.

Overall, rather pleased with their products, simple, easy NAS with many possible services to hang on it. OpenVPN and either static IP or DDNS means I can access it from any Internet connection over IPSEC.

Worth looking at, in my opinion.

p.s. Also have one running Postfix/Dovecot for a small business client, works fairly well, although I do have to keep an eye on those services after power outages and updates, they tend to require "repairs" in Synology's vernacular.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Anecdotal evidence) While I've been happy with OVH over the last year, literally last night they suspended my servers because they weren't able to charge my card. No warning that they would charge it, no pre-authorization, no grace period to rectify the problem, just shut down the servers at 2AM in the night. Not happy to say the least.

Curious, how long have you been running your service with them? A few months?.. years?

This was the first year I've been with them, and pre-paid for a year of dedicated servers.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

#74

Buy a Minisforum UM350. Install Linux on it. Set up Tailscale on it and all devices you want to have access to its internal services. Set up Nextcloud on it. There you go, $300 one-time cost, and you have a very powerful private server that can run all your self-hosted stuff. Via Tailscale, it can even expose some services to the public internet, if you feel the desire to do so.

This is what I did. It works great.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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That's a reasonable plan. And I 100% agree that controlling your data is preferable to having it mined. What frustrates me, and why I don't do it any more, is we don't have a manageable story for most things. In many cases there's a good recipe you can follow to stand up the basic service. But hardening, security patching, etc. aren't covered. You have to come up with your own solution to make sure it's up, etc. On t…

The experience needs to be more like installing an app on a phone or a game on a console and with automated backups and easy restore. Self hosting will never come back if we are still expecting people to manage servers like it’s 1985. I think part of the problem is that this is exactly the kind of stuff that is not fun. It’s that boring middle layer between the OS and apps. Compounding the problem is the fact that th…

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Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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If you take a sibling commentator's suggestion to stand up something at home, there's always older, beyond-upstream-support rackmount servers to be had on Craigslist for a song. You'll end up upping your electrical bill in the process, but it's a fun option if you want to homelab it as a hobby.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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I'm in the process of standing up my own hardware (1U server/some simple compute box + FreeNAS) for doing this. There's a variable I don't understand with self-hosted cloud/storage: what guarantees do you have that they're not peeking at what you store? Why do you trust them over $CORP? Do you encrypt your data at-rest (dm-crypt, fscrypt, etc.), and do block storage providers support this? edit: fix typo

It's an issue, for sure. My thinking is I would include some sort of in-house encryption for stored objects; encryption is never perfect and rolling your own is usually a recipe for failure, but it would get in the way of intrusions of the "bored employee poking around the servers" variety. Such a lazy nose would move on to easier pickings, and nothing I'm doing matters enough to steal - even my creative work is CC so if you want my 3D asset files, they're all yours buddy.
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