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Market cap is not a measure of past profits.
or future?
But OpenAI could hit the profit cap without having a particularly high market cap.
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Market cap is not a measure of past profits.
or future?
But OpenAI could hit the profit cap without having a particularly high market cap.
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The argument then becomes how to interpret "Open", not that you both agree. If they keep publishing their research, then OpenAI seems like a fine name to me.
They've largely stopped publishing.
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They've largely stopped publishing.
To be fair, they still published papers casually and published a ton of useful OOS recently. Whisper, Tiktoken, Point-E, you named it.
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I asked a question of chatgpt. --- Create a PR release in 10 paragraphs about Microsoft extending their partnership with OpenAI, by investing another $3.2 billion. Paragraph 1: Microsoft is excited to announce that it is extending its partnership with OpenAI by investing an additional $3.2 billion. This partnership has been a key driver of innovation and progress in the field of artificial intelligence, and we are th…
> I asked a question of chatgpt. > Paragraph 8: Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said, "We are excited to continue our partnership with OpenAI to drive innovation and progress in the field of artificial intelligence. This new investment will enable us to bring the benefits of AI to more people and organizations around the world." > Paragraph 9: OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said, "We are thrilled to be continuing our partnership…
Prompt: Create a PR full-page release about Microsoft extending their partnership with OpenAI, by investing another $3.2 billion.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Microsoft and OpenAI: Partners in Progress
Redmond, WA – Today, Microsoft is proud to announce the extension of its partnership with OpenAI with an additional investment of $3.2 billion. This partnership, which began in 2019, has been a key driver of innovation and progress in the field of artificial intelligence (AI) and Microsoft is excited to continue its work with OpenAI.
The investment will be used to support OpenAI's ongoing research and development efforts and to expand the company's capabilities in areas such as machine learning, natural language processing, and computer vision. With this new investment, Microsoft and OpenAI will continue to push the boundaries of what is possible with AI, driving new breakthroughs and advancements in the field.
The extended partnership will also enable Microsoft to bring the benefits of OpenAI's technology to its customers and partners, helping to drive new business opportunities and enable organizations to take advantage of the latest AI advances. Microsoft and OpenAI will also be working together to promote responsible AI practices and ethical guidelines, ensuring that the technology is used in a way that is safe, fair, and transparent.
The partnership between Microsoft and OpenAI has already resulted in some significant accomplishments, such as building a language model that can generate human-like text and creating a new system for natural language understanding. With this new investment, the two companies will be able to take their collaboration to the next level, creating new possibilities for AI applications across various industries.
"We are excited to continue our partnership with OpenAI to drive innovation and progress in the field of artificial intelligence. This new investment will enable us to bring the benefits of AI to more people and organizations around the world," said Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft.
"We are thrilled to be continuing our partnership with Microsoft. Their support and investment will allow us to continue to make significant advances in AI research, and bring the benefits of this technology to more people and organizations," said Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI.
The extended partnership between Microsoft and OpenAI is a major step forward for the field of artificial intelligence, and the companies are excited to see what the future holds. Together, they will continue to push the boundaries of what is possible and drive progress in this rapidly evolving field.
About Microsoft: Microsoft is a technology company that develops, licenses, and sells computer software, consumer electronics, and personal computers and services. Its best known software products are the Microsoft Windows line of operating systems, the Microsoft Office suite, and the Internet Explorer and Edge web browsers.
About OpenAI: OpenAI is an artificial intelligence research laboratory consisting of the for-profit OpenAI LP and its parent company, the non-profit OpenAI Inc. The company is dedicated to creating and promoting friendly AI in a way that benefits all of humanity.
For more information about the extended partnership between Microsoft and OpenAI, please visit [insert website link].
Contact: [Name, Title] [Company Name] [Phone Number] [Email Address]
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I heard estimates in tens of $M. That's rather available.
Isn't that quite a lot of other-than-personnel cost for a software startup? And how many iterations do you throw away before you get one that generates income?
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Everything you and I consider value is a fixed background from the point of view of a mind whose sole difference from ours is the speedup. I only see them valuing that if they're also extremely neophobic in a way that, for example, would look like a human thinking that "fire" and "talking" are dangerously modern. > Transistors pale in comparison to the interconnection density of synapses Not so. Transistor are also s…
>Everything you and I consider value is a fixed background from the point of view of a mind whose sole difference from ours is the speedup. This is completely made up and I already pointed that out. >Not so. Transistor are also smaller than synapses by about the degree to which marathon runners are smaller than hills. So, brains are connected in 3d, transistors aren't. Transistors don't have interconnection density l…
You already answered that yourself: it's all made up.
Given it's all made up, nothing will cause them to value what we value — unless we actively cause that valuation to happen, which is the rallying cause for people like Yudkowsky who fear AGI takeover.
And even then, anything you forget to include in the artificial values you give the AI is permanently lost forever, because an AI is necessarily a powerful optimiser for whatever it was made to optimise, and that always damages whatever isn't being explicitly preserved even when the agents are humans.
> Transistors don't have interconnection density like brains do.
Only limit is the heat. They are already packed way tighter than synapses. An entire Intel 8080 processor made with SOTA litho process is smaller than just the footprint of the soma of the smallest neuron.
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It's literally a nonprofit
That means absolutely nothing to billionaire control freaks. If OpenAI's products become the next Googlie thing (and here I was worried about Cloudflare ) then these are the future influencers . This is society mainlined on TikTok levels of manipulation. Surely you have adapted to ChatGPT's requirements for interacting, have you not? There is a name for this: social engineering .
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To be fair, they still published papers casually and published a ton of useful OOS recently. Whisper, Tiktoken, Point-E, you named it.
Are these papers reproducible, or do they have source attached to them, if applicable?
I would say the vast majority published are not even close to be able to be reproduced.
Full size LLMs are not able to be reproduced because the datasets are copyright and not distributable and you need millions of dollars worth of compute to fully train them.
If a company is publishing enough detail about SoTA architectures for researchers to ballpark reproduce, that is a win in my book.
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> OpenAI wants to be perceived as an open, academic, capped-profit for a noble reason collective. Does anybody actually believe this? Their name has been a running joke for years already.
Sam Altman addresses that when he was asked that question in 'How I Built This' Podcast. Essentially: OpenAI did not realize the massive scale they needed for them to be successful. When they realized this, they could not raise any funding as 'non-profit'. They asked govt, who did not want to fund it, and other sources, at the end they did not have any other recourse. Sam Altaman says: 90% of funding was needed for c…
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Are these papers reproducible, or do they have source attached to them, if applicable?
Very few DL papers are 100% fully reproducible, in that you can get identical results and generate identical checkpoints, even when source is attached and benchmark datasets are used. I would say the vast majority published are not even close to be able to be reproduced. Full size LLMs are not able to be reproduced because the datasets are copyright and not distributable and you need millions of dollars worth of comp…
What I'm expecting is not holding back the secret sauce, as seen in some (or many) publications.
My gripe is not limited to DL/ML/AI scope either. When I try to compare my results with the papers I cite, I generally can't find the formulae or the detailed method to reproduce the numerical method the paper claims, and this leaves us at the dark.
All I can do is saying "Paper23 cites these results, and we surpass them at this, we are even at that, and they are better at the other thing", which I'm not comfortable doing. Not because they are not telling the truth, but I want to test my method against other methods on an even ground.