You can vape up your sleeve on a plane, but snus is the best way.
Snus isn't actually legal in a lot of places. As in - it's legal to have, but you can't buy it anywhere(most of EU and UK I believe).
You can definitely buy pouches of tobacco to be used like snus in the UK (and I'm almost certain that was the case before Brexit, too). Unless "snus" has some specific definition that's illegal and the UK sells an alternative? Not sure, last time I tried snus was in Finland over a decade ago.
> If I lit a cigarette as I'd like to, their parents might attack me for shaving a few theoretical seconds off their lives. Many things are not harmful if just done one, but you are not alone. I understand that if you are allowed to smoke many other people would also, and it would have a noticeable detriment in peoples live quality.
If everyone is allowed to take their coughing children on airplanes, it's a detriment to my life quality. What's the difference? Why are ten coughing children without masks less lethal than ten adults smoking cigarettes?
The difference is hyperbole. You make it sound like you’re being personally harassed by a minimum of 10 children, possibly taking shift coverage to make sure to infect you 24x7.
And you’re comparing that with actual smokers who would actually light up at every opportunity.
Oh it’s “just one cigarette” that you would smoke right? Just one. Why are these unreasonable people persecuting you unreasonably for just one. Of course you wouldn’t smoke a second. Of course no one else would smoke one after seeing you.
It’s amazing how backwards you got things there. The mental gymnastics you went through! Do you really think the air was cleaner in planes when people smoked in them? And you think children coughing is worse than smoking ? Jesus. By the way, I hope you know there are Covid vaccines now, but I hesitate to ask your opinion on them.
The person you are replying to suggests that covid is higher risk for a 3 hour exposure than second hand smoke, which is the correct risk analysis. Only a covid-denier would suggest differently.
Gosh, it's wonderful to hear anyone besides my clients tell me my risk analysis was correct. We're living in a crazy world, where opinions are cheap. Between what's said online and what's officially declared, you have to be your own man handler and keep your own counsel. On the occasion someone else in this mad world tells you that your analysis is fundamentally logical, you should thank them. So thank you.
Smoking on planes is absolutely something I can't wrap my head around in any possible way. How the hell someone EVER thought it would be a good idea to let people smoke while packed inside a flying metal cylinder?
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Your inference from the data is flawed. They changed the filters more often because they clogged more often. Filters clog up and reduce their airflow over time, they don't allow more particles through over time. So the air was 3x dirtier.
> Drinking alcohol is similar in that regard, people are amazed (for opposite reasons) to find out 60% of Americans drink. I'm technically in that 60%, but I drink so infrequently I barely qualify (outside of certain social events, I never drink, and never more than 2 drinks). I think I had about a dozen drinks in all of 2022. I wonder what percent of that 60% are similar to me.
60% isn't a startling figure. What is, is that 90% of the alcohol sold is consumed by 10%, most of whom are essentially functional alcoholics. 1 in 10 of the people you encounter daily.
Well it's better than being a dysfunctional alcholic I suppose.
You don't have to ban smokers to ban smoking on a sub. Smokers don't have to smoke, they merely choose to do so.
As an ex-smoker, I'd ask you to consider it as about the most addictive thing going. Think of something you really, really like doing. Something that calms or pleases you every time you do it. Like, playing a game, or reading a book, or eating your favourite food. Now imagine someone telling you that you don't have to do that, it's just a choice. Imagine being deprived of it and being guilt-tripped into it. Sure you…
Nicotine addiction is real, but cigarettes aren’t the only way to administer it. I’d imagine many smokers on a sub use an alternative rather than stop.
Snus isn't actually legal in a lot of places. As in - it's legal to have, but you can't buy it anywhere(most of EU and UK I believe).
You can definitely buy pouches of tobacco to be used like snus in the UK (and I'm almost certain that was the case before Brexit, too). Unless "snus" has some specific definition that's illegal and the UK sells an alternative? Not sure, last time I tried snus was in Finland over a decade ago.
Actual snus(powdered tabbaco sold and advertised as a product you put up your nose) isn't legal for sale in the UK:
Covid exists, it always will at this rate, and the rest of us won't be suffering for your insecurity about your own immune system. You wear a mask if you like. If it works, you have nothing to worry about.
You misspelled "can't be bothered to contribute to the wellbeing of the people around us". Incidentally, you think wearing a rated mask for a couple hours qualifies as "suffering"? When did notionally adult humans get this soft? Try working 10 hours straight in a tyvek bunny suit and full face respiratory PPE. We'd be carting you off my jobsite in a wheelbarrow after 30 minutes.
So, I also think politesse is really a critical skill and function in society. I've never smoked in close proximity to anyone without asking them if they minded if I lit up first. I also have never coughed on an airplane. Never. Not once. I've flown upwards of 200,000 miles in my life. I don't understand this urge people have to spread their germs as soon as they get seated and buckled in. I know the air is dry; control yourself. Really, try to control yourself.
So what you write is really the basic truth: Try to contribute to the wellbeing of people around you. That shouldn't be so hard.
That Gallup survey doesn't really scan for me. If you had told me in 2001 that 35% of my generation were smokers I would not have believed that. There must be a huge regional component to those survey responses.
I would believe at least 25% any time before 2000. It wasn't really until the late 90s that anti-smoking really got ingrained in the general psyche, and there was still quite a bit of inertia. Plus kids who were raised by smokers were more likely to smoke.
Smoking on planes is absolutely something I can't wrap my head around in any possible way. How the hell someone EVER thought it would be a good idea to let people smoke while packed inside a flying metal cylinder?