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Stop Building on Corporate-Controlled Languages

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Re: Stop Building on Corporate-Controlled Languages

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My response to the plea in this article is simply "No thanks." If Go gets that bad, I'd be happy to use an ungoogled fork of it, or migrate to another toolchain or language, or whatever needs to happen. But until then, I'm not going to preemptively switch ecosystems and banish technically good options from my tool belt because I have fears about what could happen. I want production quality toolchain and runtimes. Tha…

Based on the article, the person appears to be also talking about privacy, security, and freedom. Where the corporate tools can unexpectedly and stealthily be phoning home or the direction they go in are corporate controlled too much. This is less of an issue with truly/more so free and open source tools like Nim, Vlang, Free Pascal, Odin, Dlang, etc... They don't have the same kinds or levels of corporate gotchas attached to them. They are more "tools of the people". In various languages, corporations are more akin to users and donors, than they are dictating the direction and forcing their way, despite what the majority of users may want.

Re: Stop Building on Corporate-Controlled Languages

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post #23

My response to the plea in this article is simply "No thanks." If Go gets that bad, I'd be happy to use an ungoogled fork of it, or migrate to another toolchain or language, or whatever needs to happen. But until then, I'm not going to preemptively switch ecosystems and banish technically good options from my tool belt because I have fears about what could happen. I want production quality toolchain and runtimes. Tha…

Corporate control is very much a problem. A big one.

Re: Stop Building on Corporate-Controlled Languages

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As I said I love golang. I invested a lot of my own time into learning it and its ecosystem. The time developers spend learning a language and its libraries should not be discounted. Maybe we overestimate how much corporate backing is required to make a language a success. After all we had successful languages and ecosystems long before any corporations became interested in funding such things. You mention golang's c…

Name a popular language without corporate backing. C was corporate, AT&T. C++ was corporate, AT&T. Java was corporate, Sun. Maybe Perl wasn't corporate. Had a great run but faded. Python? Maybe, but Guido van Rossum worked at Google and Dropbox for many years. Ruby? Is popular because Rails, corporate. JavaScript? Mozilla.

Very much Python.

Re: Stop Building on Corporate-Controlled Languages

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Yes. _Fit_ is right, specifically in this context. Re-read the comment you're talking about. In fact, either work fine. I'm taking issue with the pedantry we're engaging in here (while admittedly adding to it).

The context was clearly about payments. So it's foot. It's not particularly ambiguous even. I don't correct people to be pedantic or argumentative. I love being corrected and learning from others, but I suppose not everyone does.

Yes, it is "foot the bill" in regards to paying for it. My mistake but I am glad everyone had some fun learning!
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