Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

Post by wolrah » Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 5:10 PM UTC

epicureanideal wrote: post #30

jasonlotito wrote: post #6

> must be selected by a school district employee who holds a valid educational media specialist certificate, The same people who oppose freedom of speech are over here supporting DeSantis and his crusade against education and his push for bigger government.

Free speech is not the same as being able to tell other people’s kids anything you want while they’re attending a mandatory educational institution run in the name of the public. This law seems like an extreme reaction, but to what many people believe is already an extreme situation. See also: https://youtu.be/TwucVRj_mdc

Post by kjghkjghkjgh » Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 5:10 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #21

yamtaddle wrote: post #19

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Classroom libraries are a big deal. Every step taken that makes a teacher's job riskier, less pleasant, or less like what they want to be doing (teaching kids, without having to worry about whether some plainly-positive action is legal), drives good teachers out of the profession.

It also drives families with kids out of Florida to more sane educational operating environments. Florida already has the worst teacher shortage in the nation: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/01/22/our-child...

Post by Floegipoky » Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 5:12 PM UTC

agloeregrets wrote: post #67

jackson1442 wrote: post #2

One of the requirements for book approval: > Appropriate for the grade level and age group for which the materials are used or made available If I was in grade school when this happened, this would have hampered my ability to learn. I was generally reading above the standard level and loved reading in class. Reading this post just makes me sad. Kids aren't getting the same opportunities I got to nurture my curiosity.

Additionally, the content of the book has to pass rather insane content rules, including banning any description or implication of homosexuality. Wildly, they branded it as 'Parents rights' as in: "If I don't want my kid to read X...NOBODY's should". The outcome is an attempt to whitewash out topics that are inconvenient to the agenda at play to protect the agenda long term. $5 says it just makes teen pregnancy happe…

Post by soco » Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 5:13 PM UTC

seanw444 wrote: post #262

mynameisvlad wrote: post #245

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> and will also not disarm myself to make myself more of a juicy target Are you the president of the United States? Are you a multi-millionaire? Are you openly a member of a gang or other criminal organization? If not, then, quite plainly, you're not a target. Period.

Hmm. Watch Active Self Protection on YouTube, and tell me that again. You'd be surprised how often people get targeted for no reason / stupid reasons. Frankly, I find that the people that oppose guns and concealed carry are usually the type that live in nice neighborhoods and make nearly six figures, where the opinion is invalid. So, basically the demographic of Hacker News.

Post by agloeregrets » Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 5:15 PM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #302

agloeregrets wrote: post #157

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Conceptually, if the government defines the teaching, at what point do the people run the government and at what point does the government run the people? Also, politics in America are way more messy than that. The choice becomes "People you agree 50% with or people you agree 20% with?". I would bet that if this were put to a statewide vote, it would not pass.

The community/voters define the government and the government defines the teaching. Which entity is more in touch with the wants and needs of Florida voters: Florida's state and local governments or the federal government in Washington?