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Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Good summary. Couple notes/IMOs... HBO Max is great, but it's tied to a terrible management/company anchor. Rumor is now they are going to drop the trusted HBO brand smh. Netflix is well positioned, but a player like Disney is also setup to acquire other streamers as they fall over from cost structure issues. I think we're about to see mass consolidation. Finally, I'm kind of sad that I think the content 'golden era'…

On the content of HBO Max: Its been very hit or miss for me with HBO Max originals. HBO (they do brand them differently) originals are still stellar, for the most part. If the new Velma show is any indicator of what HBO Max wants to do as run of the mill content though, I'm wondering how long it'll hold up as a premium streaming service. Warner didn't even unlock their entire backlog of Looney Toons cartoons on their…

Agree. Sticking a bunch of questionable content under the HBO brand (which Max is certainly piggy-backing on) is more proof of the incompetent management.

Even though I benefit, I think it was also dumb for them to give away HBO to any AT&T subscribers (maybe internet only?). HBO was something I used to pay for.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Netflix only lost to Blockbuster because Blockbuster didn't believe in online anything strongly enough to properly fund it. Blockbuster had the better network and better penetration, and even had equally good technology. But corporate didn't want to fund them to hire the next set of engineers they needed. Blockbuster would have won if their board had been just slightly more forward looking. And Netflix knew it.

Google has massive range and tons of way to push their services onto users, and google+ failed miserably.

Resources are not guarantee of success.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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On the content of HBO Max: Its been very hit or miss for me with HBO Max originals. HBO (they do brand them differently) originals are still stellar, for the most part. If the new Velma show is any indicator of what HBO Max wants to do as run of the mill content though, I'm wondering how long it'll hold up as a premium streaming service. Warner didn't even unlock their entire backlog of Looney Toons cartoons on their…

FWIW my understanding is that WB withholding the Looney Tunes backlog is entirely due to the fact that there's a lot of problematic (e.g. racist, sexist) material in there that they're understandably worried about. I completely agree with you otherwise.

Disney+ got around this problem by just adding disclaimers to the content. They did this for all their questionable content, and if people reported it (IE they missed something) they were quick to add it.

It seems Disney+ isn't scarred by this at all (it definitely doesn't dominate the public conversation around it), so perhaps there is a lead in here?

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Sort of an aside question, but the article praises Hastings ability to execute: > To say that Hastings excelled at execution is a dramatic understatement; indeed, the speed with which the company rolled out its advertising product in 2022[...] is a testament that Hastings’ imprint on the company’s ability to execute remains. Is there a place where one could read details on what made him so great at execution?

The No Rules Rules book by him and an actual author is really good.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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> This also fails to account for the strength of HBO Max (very strong sub numbers) It's important to note that those numbers are very juiced. For example, my HBOMax comes for free with my AT&T internet (still). I've never paid them a dime directly. When they first started they were basically giving away accounts like crazy to get growth. I think they also gave free accounts to their cable subscribers. So while their…

Netflix comes free with T-Mobile Magenta plans, I think Comcast includes some sort of premium Peacock subscription. I don't know that AT&T bundling it would be much different than the other services bundling, would it?

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What I don't understand is how e.g. Disney+ is losing so much money. It's Disney's content, has an enormous userbase, and somehow is bleeding billions?

Content is expensive to produce. Disney+ is not just a streaming platform for existing Disney content, rather, Disney produce content for it. Likewise, Netflix spends most of its money on content, operating the actual platform is comparatively cheap.

Yeah, D+ is churning out an enormous volume of what would be considered prestige content at other services. All the Star Wars and Marvel shows are star-studded and larded with top-tier visual effects. And some of them aren't really getting a lot of viewers from what the rumors say.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Sort of an aside question, but the article praises Hastings ability to execute: > To say that Hastings excelled at execution is a dramatic understatement; indeed, the speed with which the company rolled out its advertising product in 2022[...] is a testament that Hastings’ imprint on the company’s ability to execute remains. Is there a place where one could read details on what made him so great at execution?

I can tell you as a former employee what I think it was. Reed was a developer, and in fact made software to make other developers more productive. He still thinks with that mindset internally.

The entire culture at Netflix is built around enabling engineers to do what they think is the best thing. This in turn attracts engineers who like that kind of environment. I would gladly work with any of my former Netflix coworkers again in a heartbeat.

The way this manifests is the mantra "context not control". From Reed on down, management's job is to tell the people that work for them "this is what we want to accomplish as a company/team/group". It is then up to those people to set the agenda.

So I'd say Reed's execution is that he is great at making sure the right people get hired and the culture remains one of high performance, attracting talented engineers who want to work somewhere where making big changes is accepted.

I wasn't there for the ads rollout, but I suspect it went something like Reed saying, "The time has come for us to roll out ads, we need the extra revenue". Then everyone down the line said, "this is how our department will contribute to that". Then the engineers said, "this is what needs to change" and just made it happen and no one got in their way. They have excellent developer tools that enable rapid prototyping and deployment, so while the engineers were building the ad tools, the content team was hiring the best ad exec they could find, who was very interested in the challenge of building an ad organization from scratch, and then everyone probably got out of their way.

I say this because I was there for streaming, and it went very similarly. Reed (and the other execs) agreed that the technology had now caught up to his vision, and it was time to stream over the internet. So the engineers built it while the content team was created to start licensing content. Then some of the engineers said, "we could do this a lot faster and eventually worldwide if we hitch our wagon to this new AWS thing". And so management got out of the way and said "if that's what you think is best, we will support that". And so they started building on AWS, and hired a bunch of people who expertise in building on AWS (that was how I got in) and the rest is history. We kept hiring great engineers and saying "if we do it this way it will be a better experience for the customers" and for us internal teams, our customers were other engineers, so we made the best internal tools we could to enable developers.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Something I don't understand is why Disney and others need to have their own streaming service. Why Netflix can't sit down with Disney and merge the two streaming services. Disney is amazing at making content, so is Netflix at the moment. They could take a look at the present, their market cap, debt and so on and structure a solution that would: 1. Make Netflix the best streaming service with the best content, also b…

That makes an assumption.

- That Netflix has a infrastructure competitive advantage. That probably used to be true with microservices, chaos monkey, and all that. But while a big streaming platform isn't something a couple engineers throw together in a weekend, it's a pretty well understood problem. It's content that attracts subscribers.

And that content doesn't really have economies of scale. Having twice as much good content probably costs about twice as much which means you ned to charge about twice as much which doesn't offer a compelling advantage over just having two separate subscriptions.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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I'm gonna attempt to break this down: - Netflix has 5-6 Billion USD free cash flow, and because they got what debt they do have under favorable terms, they are positioned to retain most of that free cash flow - Disney, Comcast (Peacock), CBS/Viacom and other media corporations are saddled with debt, and are all losing money on their own independent streaming businesses. Likely untenable in their shareholder model - T…

> This also fails to account for the strength of HBO Max (very strong sub numbers) It's important to note that those numbers are very juiced. For example, my HBOMax comes for free with my AT&T internet (still). I've never paid them a dime directly. When they first started they were basically giving away accounts like crazy to get growth. I think they also gave free accounts to their cable subscribers. So while their…

ATT’s grandfathered mobile plans including HBO Max are a ripoff ever since they sold it to Discovery. You effectively are paying ~$15+$5 per line per month for 1 account of HBO Max compared to the current ATT plans offered to customer.

I have 6 lines on my ATT Unlimited Premium Plan (the most expensive retail plan), and the monthly cost dropped by $60 by removing HBO max and switching to the new plans.

It is probably cheaper just to buy directly at HBOMax.com

See the “new” ATT prices, all without HBO Max (couple years old now maybe?)

https://www.att.com/plans/unlimited-data-plans/

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