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Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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Is fixing your HN habit really going to improve your life, or will you find a similar escape from reality to latch onto instead? I think you'll get much more out of addressing the core problem -- I don't know what that is for you, but with therapy you may find out. See a good psychologist who is experienced with ADHD.

> I think you'll get much more out of addressing the core problem -- I don't know what that is for you, but with therapy you may find out. See a good psychologist who is experienced with ADHD. How do you know that the OP hasn’t tried that already? “Therapy” is not the panacea many people make it out to be. If it works for you, great-but others are not guaranteed to have the same success. And poor results are not nece…

At the same time, therapy is not the failure that many people make it out to be. If it failed for you, ok, but others are not guaranteed to have the same failure.

It is a tool. It works well for people whose problems fall nicely into the toolkits that the therapy industry has evolved to treat. If this is run-of-the-mill ADHD, it can help. If it is something else, it might not.

Therapy can also peel away layers of problems. If you have a slew of problems, maybe therapy won't solve everything, but it will help you identify a few problems that you can fix, easing the burden to find other tools to solve the other problems. Some problems also have a multiplying effect on each other, so a partial solve of your concerns may make the rest livable.

I'd say if someone truly wants to improve their life, it is worth trying the tools available to them. If they work, great - if not, try something else.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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For me: (1) Recognize that if I'm struggling to focus, I'm probably either (a) not interested in what I'm doing or (b) have too much on my plate. (2) If I'm struggling to focus day after day, find something else to do. (3) If I have too much on my plate, insist that my employer lighten the load or, once again, find something else to do. It's not easy. Taken to its logical conclusion, I'm suggesting quitting jobs that…

>allow you to do one thing at a time Yep, this is why I chose truck driving as a job. I am looking to change out of it now after 12 years, but there's no short list of 'one thing at a time'jobs, and the ADHD has prevented me from learning programming so far. Regarding OP's question, when the tab counter on Firefox turns to infinity, I check the last ten tabs for anything really important, then take a deep breath and…

May I interest you the most potent dopamine kick for us with adhd?

Build it, run it.

For iOS development, that means rubbing the ink off of Cmd+R, Python in PyCharm is Ctrl+R, bash is uparrow+enter…

The feeling of extreme frustration when things don’t compile and run, met quickly behind a rush of “hell yeah!” dopamine when things work - is an adhd brain’s white powder.

However, keep in mind that over time, business success will mean not finding the next thing to battle with or to learn - it will be implementing what you know quickly towards a customer aim. There’s a pit of despair if one doesn’t keep an eye out for that.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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Stayfocusd chrome extension for sites that are trouble during working hours.

I've started to implement the advice here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFL6qRIJZ_Y albeit too early to tell. He's pretty well credentialed though, so I trust on average the advice is good (but specifically for each individual YMMV)

One of his best points is dont act like or prescribe yourself ADHD solutions until you have a true diagnosis by an expert. Losing focus and distractions is commonplace for all people today, not just ADHD folks.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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> There’s a never ending number of things I bookmark. One of the key features of ADHD is a never-ending list of things to do. Edward M. Hallowell (who wrote "Driven to Distraction") remarks that perhaps it is the most characteristic feature of ADHD. Previously, browser crashes saved my sanity— killing dozens of open tabs with fascinating articles. Now I try to let it go . In a Zen/stoic way, knowing that nothing will…

I've found asking myself "why am I doing what I'm doing" helps - I stop midway in comments and delete them because I realize there's nothing to gain for myself or others. Helps me with overeating as well, am I doing this because I'm hungry or bored? It doesn't have to be a classicly productive answer "it's fun" is clearly a good reason, but a nudge towards positive actions helps me personally. I understand some will…

Thanks for pushing through on this comment - have the same loop too, almost deleted this one… cheers and good luck out there

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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With ADHD, a single HN post could have me following source material and child nodes up to 5-6 layers deep.

Once the time-blindness wears off, the anxiety sets in you realize hours have passed and outstanding work is due soon.

What sort of worked:

- Blocking web sites during work hours (SelfControl for MacOS and NextDNS for devices)

What did work:

- Consistent sleep schedule (10PM)

- Mindfulness meditation in the morning

- Getting physically active in the morning

- Working in a different environment

What helped on top of that:

- Getting prescribed for ADHD medication

- Professional counseling from a therapist

- Dealing with what’s causing your anxiety (or depression)

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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This app: https://selfcontrolapp.com/

I don't quite know how it works, but it allows me to setup a website block list that I can't get around. I'm sure if I really tried I could figure out what it changed and get around the block, but 1) then it would defeat the purpose and 2) that takes effort that I don't want to spend.

Then I put my phone in the other room, and voila! 95% of my distractions are out the window.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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post #15

> There’s a never ending number of things I bookmark. One of the key features of ADHD is a never-ending list of things to do. Edward M. Hallowell (who wrote "Driven to Distraction") remarks that perhaps it is the most characteristic feature of ADHD. Previously, browser crashes saved my sanity— killing dozens of open tabs with fascinating articles. Now I try to let it go . In a Zen/stoic way, knowing that nothing will…

Now I try to let it go. In a Zen/stoic way, knowing that nothing will happen if I don't read something. Wha?! I download every movie and book I can. The more rare the better. I know, deep in my heart, they must be saved from dead torrent links. Even deeper nestled in the depths of my endlessly deep heart, I know that if there is a disaster, that government agency which tracks all, knows this, and I am on a list. A li…

Ah a fellow archiver - don't listen to them! We must preserve at all costs!

I wish you abundant storage redundancy.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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post #185

With ADHD, a single HN post could have me following source material and child nodes up to 5-6 layers deep. Once the time-blindness wears off, the anxiety sets in you realize hours have passed and outstanding work is due soon. What sort of worked: - Blocking web sites during work hours (SelfControl for MacOS and NextDNS for devices) What did work: - Consistent sleep schedule (10PM) - Mindfulness meditation in the morn…

That basically describes my schedule and my habits.

One important thing to add to that: an online diet. I have The Guardian, Reddit, and a ton of other distracting content blocked on all devices (hosts files, NextDNS, etc).

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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For me: (1) Recognize that if I'm struggling to focus, I'm probably either (a) not interested in what I'm doing or (b) have too much on my plate. (2) If I'm struggling to focus day after day, find something else to do. (3) If I have too much on my plate, insist that my employer lighten the load or, once again, find something else to do. It's not easy. Taken to its logical conclusion, I'm suggesting quitting jobs that…

I'm convinced that multi-tasking leads to brain damage over time.

Kinda like WFH, this varies a lot from people to people. Well, I don't know about the damage part, but definitely, for some of us, intense multitasking leads to cognitive decline (it was reversed for me hence why I said "I don't know about the damage part")

I spent a few years working on a Support team, at least a couple of those years managing that team, and part of my job involved being interruptible with a very short response time, on several different channels (I mean email, IM, phone, etc.)

I liked that job as I met great people and learned a lot, but the moment I was able to shift into a more focused position (within the same company) I felt a great relief, an improvement in my quality of life, and a recovery of my cognitive skills. At that same company, I had (had because I no longer work there, we're still friends of course) a great friend, someone whom I know since we were 16 (We're 44 now), and he's the exact opposite and took the opposite path: He started off doing dev work, focusing on just a few tasks at a time, but it didn't work for him (even though he was amazing at his job) and ended up loving working as a support engineer. He thrives in an environment where he gets interrupted multiple times per hour (!!) during his work day, with no impact at all on his cognitive skills. In fact, not only is he a great problem solver, while dealing with multiple problems in parallel (and the interruptions include having to jump on a screen-sharing session without warning, something I can't tell you how much I feared and despised when I had to do that job!), he can tell you by heart the numbers of all the tickets he's working on, including their description and context. And I don't mean while working, I mean over beers at a meetup ...

The one thing we both agree on is that we love WFH and would never, ever go back to an office (he's been WFH pretty much all his life, while I've been doing that for 15 years now). And just as that is the case for us, I also know personally people who don't like WFH and need to go to an office every day in order to be productive and to feel a human connection with their coworkers.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

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post #15

> There’s a never ending number of things I bookmark. One of the key features of ADHD is a never-ending list of things to do. Edward M. Hallowell (who wrote "Driven to Distraction") remarks that perhaps it is the most characteristic feature of ADHD. Previously, browser crashes saved my sanity— killing dozens of open tabs with fascinating articles. Now I try to let it go . In a Zen/stoic way, knowing that nothing will…

> Another approach I use is "write it down". In this sense, I add to bookmarks (here I am a diehard fan of Pinboard), but NOT with the intention of "read it later", but "if I want to find it again, I know where it is". So I have a cake and eat it too - no "wall of links of shame", and no anxiety that I might have lost a life-changing link.

That's what I do too and it works well. I've changed the system I use to track the content (currently I'm storing interesting things I may want to read later in Zotero, and some also in Safari's Reading List).

What I like about this is that I can save something for later even if, despite finding it interesting, I either don't have the time or the mental energy to read it now, and also that I have a nearly-endless list of things to go through if I'm ever bored, stuck, etc.

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