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Re: OpenAI and Microsoft extend partnership

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was 100% sure you were talking about Boston Dynamics before that last sentence.

I somewhat recall their CEO saying something like "my job is to get YouTube views" in an interview. edit: To clarify, I think he was only half-serious.

Now I'm curious what the hell is the CMO's job then.

Re: OpenAI and Microsoft extend partnership

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For people more well versed in this space: does GPT / OpenAI more broadly have a meaningful moat? It seems like there will be a number of these models out there and this isn't as great as say Google's up-till-now advantage in search relevancy.

It seems like the fine tune dataset to go from GPT -> ChatGPT is pretty valuable, particularly because it is proprietary.

Still, I agree with your characterization that we should see many similar models over time. As an example, see Deepmind’s Sparrow: https://www.deepmind.com/blog/building-safer-dialogue-agents

Re: OpenAI and Microsoft extend partnership

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author: no one quotes in article: none dates / timelines for partnership deliverables: none was this written by chatgpt?

The “author” appears to be “OpenAI” ( i.e. , posting on behalf of the company) and they’ve posted like that numerous times before [1]. [1]: https://openai.com/blog/authors/openai

I'll take that as a yes.

Re: OpenAI and Microsoft extend partnership

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Prompt: Create a PR smokescreen in 3 paragraphs with as little facts as possible.

You can also do the reverse, taking the long article to extract the facts for a toddler:

OpenAI and Microsoft are working together again, Microsoft is giving them a lot of money to help them make AI that is safe and helpful and they are excited to keep working together.

Re: OpenAI and Microsoft extend partnership

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> In pursuit of our mission to ensure advanced AI benefits all of humanity, OpenAI remains a capped-profit company and is governed by the OpenAI non-profit. This structure allows us to raise the capital we need to fulfill our mission without sacrificing our core beliefs about broadly sharing benefits and the need to prioritize safety. All this time, I was entirely unaware of this.

I take this in the same vein as "Patagonia Founder Donates Company to Charity" and view it as a clever shell game.Mostly because Im cynical and have watched SV/VC game way too long to be healthy.

Oh, I think it's way more of a marketing scam than the Patagonia thing, which I think was kind of legit. This one doesn't even sound legit, even if they do exactly what they say... which is almost nothing. they aren't even really saying they'll do anything different with regard to profit. Patagonia, I think the founder and his heirs really have given up lots of profit they could have had, immediately, to dedicate it to other causes. (I think?) Nobody's given up anything here.

Re: OpenAI and Microsoft extend partnership

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For people more well versed in this space: does GPT / OpenAI more broadly have a meaningful moat? It seems like there will be a number of these models out there and this isn't as great as say Google's up-till-now advantage in search relevancy.

No I don't believe they do, productwise. We'll see soon enough I imagine. The thing is even though I don't think they have a moat in terms of model/product. They have a moat in terms of talent and capital. Only a few teams operate at their scale and sophistication, and it's hard to get there.

I view this as Microsoft paying for talent the same way DeepMind was initially integrated into Google, and at the same time making the bet that this space will continue to be immensely valuable and relevant going forward.

Pretty exciting times all things considered!

Re: OpenAI and Microsoft extend partnership

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this a wild cap? I'm not an expert but I am aware of private deals that are less than 10x for similar structures.

Yes, it's pure marketing and totally disingenuous. It's like being called OpenAI while nothing is open. It's interesting research done by terrible people.

These “terrible people” seem to have catapulted the world into a generative AI world.

They genuinely believe they will build AGI and therefore becoming the world’s most valuable company is a natural consequence.

Whether this is possible/probable is a different story, but I think a capped profit structure makes logical sense for the company that is aiming to create AGI. Would you want this technology instead in the hands of a for profit company?

Re: OpenAI and Microsoft extend partnership

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2023 is the year of Bing, calling it now.

I have the feeling Bing is on the way to overtake Google even without OpenAI, recently google results seem to struggle more and more. Whenever I am trying to remember a word, if I type something similliar sounding google will give me no results at all. Bing (I use DDG which serves Bing results) will most of the time figure out what I was trying to find.

I'm a DDG user as well and I feel it's getting loaded with spam links much like Google. Usually my most confident searches are watching a YouTube video on what I'm looking for. I would prefer text to video but it seems that's where we're headed until video becomes cheaper than text to produce (unlikely).
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