There could hardly be a broader and more vague software category than "CMS". As an exercise, write down the top ten features you expect from a CMS. See how these lists compare.
(Not disputing OP's critique of WordPress dev and testing.)
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#62What will they use instead?
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#63What's the alternative?
Concrete5 is a pretty cool new CMS that has a lot of the features that this guy asks for. http://www.concrete5.org/
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#64WordPress wasn't ever in the building. Or at least it wasn't in the building the author wanted it to be. Lots of folks have tried to force Wordpress to be more than a blog platform. I've always seen these efforts in the same light as when guys dumps tons of money and time squeezing horsepower of a Honda Civic: end of the day, it's still a Civic that get its lunch eaten by a stock 'Vette. Look, you just don't get powe…
as I've viewed when guys dumps tons of money and time squeezing horsepower of a Honda Civic
Exactly. It's still a fucking Honda, and for the time/money spent on it you should have bought a Lexus. Similarly you can tweak wordpress all day long, in the end it's a blogging software.
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#65On the WSIYWYG editor note, what are the CMS platforms out there that are much better (or just better)? I thought WP's was pretty good.
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#66I'm too tired to climb on my open source high chair to scream it out loud, so I'll gently say: come again - what ? WordPress was, is and will remain a blog platform and not a CMS. It is open source, so if you have the balls to charge oodles of money for managing it, maybe you hire guys to fix the bugs yourself.
It looks like it wasn't the right tool to base the business on.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except that Drupal is, interface-wise, even worse than Wordpress; and management of the damn thing is difficult even for the developers among us. It's hard to recommend it when you know clients/users will struggle with it.
>and management of the damn thing is difficult even for the developers among us. Understatement of the year so far. I love Drupal, but since there's no bright line separating configuration and content, rolling features up from a dev environment to staging to live can sometimes be a nightmare, particularly if the Features and Strongarm modules don't have you covered.
Agreed. Drupal has an incredibly steep learning curve. I was told to learn PHP BEFORE using Drupal and it's been a huge advantage. I can't imagine a non-developer trying to change some content or add a feature themselves.
Drupal is extremely powerful, but would be a nightmare for users used to the WP platform.
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#68What he never says in the article — and what I'd love to know - is what platform is he migrating his clients to? I also wonder if we've grown to expect too much from WordPress: It really started life as a blogging tool - the charm of it was that it wasn't a full fledged CMS.
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#70I have worked in the Enterprise CMS field for most of my dev career. Its pretty much impossible to be "All things to All people" which seems to be the requirement for CMS these days.
There seems to be dozen of CMS users:
* Marketing (free form, reporting, link management)
* Document Management users (structured, access management)
* Store front aka E-Commerce (structured)
* Simple Company Site (blog/wiki)
What I routinely see is CMS' that try to solve all these problems. OR the CMS is basically just a platform/library which really doesn't help the end user.
Part of this is what caused me to start http://snaphop.com which is a mobile campaign management (cms for marketeers) instead of the general mobile content management which has the same problems above except for mobile.