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It's funny that in another thread I was just talking about Jeff Dean or Dennis Hassabis being a much better Google CEO than Sundar. He shouldn't ,,present a solution''. He should take over incompetent leadership.
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> It’s notably better than traditional approaches which were optimized for business documents. I'm not sure I agree, primarily because "better" is subjective. A pipeline with template matching is extremely effective at extracting fixed form text in a standard layout, such as telephone numbers or credit cards, and computationally cheap as well. But I presume a drop-in black box model which isn't bound to a low computa…
I’m just going by the quality I perceive as a user. It handles basically every CAPTCHA, difficult scans of printed documents, etc. better than Tesseract. I’m sure there is lots of hard work beyond the pure ML component but from a user’s perspective it’s impressive.
Isn’t Tesseract also neural network-based?
Seems like Google leadership is freaking out. Also sounds like they really believe the whole founder-hero mythology if they think that Page-Brin can save the company. I don’t know how Google could be saved but perhaps having grateful and happy employees that would just build things in their 20% time might have been a better strategy. A truly revolutionary step would have been to buck the layoffs trend. But of course…
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Yes this is the most insane thing about GOOG to me. Yes, search is basically monopoly moat of recurring growing revenue. On the other hand, they've spent not a decade, but about 25 years betting this would remain the case! I've met a lot of people who work at GOOG, and yet none of them could explain to me how the thing they work on makes any money for GOOG. In fact, most went out of their way to volunteer to me that…
ChatGPT would probably be a better search engine than google. ChatGPT and Reddit cover most of your info. What remains is shopping, but Amazon and even Instagram are better at that. Lastly, Google has no audience for creating awareness like fb / ig / tt
Reddit is chipping away the Q&A search, but time will tell if it has a similar downfall to quora/yahoo-answers.
I’ve seen TikTok lead in educational search, cooking, gardening etc. TikTok could potentially overtake YouTube all together over next 5-10years.
Google maps isn’t as far ahead as it once was. Apple caught up.
Then you got Microsoft whos teams and office suite whicj caught up and surpassed google’s office products (for what enterprise buyers care on)
Leaving what. GCP as their only disruptive marketshare product area? And GCP while high margin isn’t nearly as high margin as their ads businesses. For GCP to be profitable they need to severely cut wages for cost center roles. A PgM in GCP shouldn’t be making 300k when AWS and Azure spend just 200k on the same role.
Finally you’ve got the money pit of waymo, X, and the bets. All of them have neither a real path to profitability nor compelling return on investment.
Id say the investors are right. Google is the new IBM, return profits to shareholders so they can invest them in more fruitful endeavors.
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Yes this is the most insane thing about GOOG to me. Yes, search is basically monopoly moat of recurring growing revenue. On the other hand, they've spent not a decade, but about 25 years betting this would remain the case! I've met a lot of people who work at GOOG, and yet none of them could explain to me how the thing they work on makes any money for GOOG. In fact, most went out of their way to volunteer to me that…
Maybe really genuinely smart people want to work on something that matters more than just making money. I think there's a reason the average physicist is much brighter than your average Google software engineer, but gets paid about a fifth as much.
> The demo for the chatbot search says Google will prioritize “getting facts right, ensuring safety and getting rid of misinformation,” This goes to the chaotic problem which is still to be decided. There is no consensus position on what facts are, what is safe and what is misinformation. Part of the success of modern democracy hinges on being able to switch the leadership out with people who have a different frame o…
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I’m just going by the quality I perceive as a user. It handles basically every CAPTCHA, difficult scans of printed documents, etc. better than Tesseract. I’m sure there is lots of hard work beyond the pure ML component but from a user’s perspective it’s impressive.
> (…) better than Tesseract Isn’t Tesseract also neural network-based? https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract
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ChatGPT would probably be a better search engine than google. ChatGPT and Reddit cover most of your info. What remains is shopping, but Amazon and even Instagram are better at that. Lastly, Google has no audience for creating awareness like fb / ig / tt
Well I'd say they both put all their eggs in one basket & let that basket deteriorate. Show of hands - people who feel google search has improved in the last 5/10 years vs people who feel it's gotten demonstrably worse? So they have a monopoly product that is something like a 2 sided market (advertisers & search users) where both sides hate using it..
I mean, personally I think this is very likely true. My feeling is that it's the web itself which has gotten demonstrably worse. Diagnosing the reasons for that is a more interesting problem.
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Yes this is the most insane thing about GOOG to me. Yes, search is basically monopoly moat of recurring growing revenue. On the other hand, they've spent not a decade, but about 25 years betting this would remain the case! I've met a lot of people who work at GOOG, and yet none of them could explain to me how the thing they work on makes any money for GOOG. In fact, most went out of their way to volunteer to me that…
Actually at the start the founders didn’t think search would be continue to be as dominant as it has been (will have to find the source and update…)
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They should be freaking out. Google is overwhelmingly dependent on a single revenue stream and AI like ChatGPT is a serious threat to their dominant position. Not to mention, Google has spent a decade using their defacto monopoly as leverage and optimizing for ads and clicks, often exploiting their own users in the process. The bar for better was lower than it should have been, and the market is hungry for an alterna…
Before it got choked off I had started using chatGPT for all of my searches. For code examples it blows google out of the water. For learning esoteric things (like congressional procedures etc.) quickly, it is without peer. I think Google's founders offered their take years ago...no one listened then.
It’s a common challenge and similar to why Amazon was so successful at disrupting retail. Retailers could have competed, but not without huge hits to profitability which shareholders would never get behind.