Cached version. He's using Wordpress and probably doesn't have a caching plugin installed.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://...
WordPress has left the building
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Re: WordPress has left the building
#42I find it hard to criticize the author for his obvious misunderstanding of the purpose of a certain piece of software and its inability to be anything other than what it is, as many people have tried and continue to try and convert their particular flavor of blogging software into the mess that is CMS and god forbid, an app.
It serves neither purpose well and someone who who claims to have been working on the internets ever since their immaculate inception should know better than to recommend [hosted] Wordpress to anyone other than the random dreamer who still thinks that they need a website from which to pontificate. In good conscience, I no longer even do that, as I find it to be a cruel exercise to inflict on someone who's otherwise harmless.
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#43After about 10 minutes with Plone, a few months with Joomla, about 2 years with Drupal, and finally 3 years with WordPress, I think WordPress is still a brilliant solution for lots of problems. The closest competitor, Drupal, is an absolute nightmare. For designers, developers and certainly for the end user. It still doesn't even ship with a wysiwyg editor—hard to disagree that this is precisely what the end user wan…
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#44Generally speaking software tends to either start powerful and try to work its way towards usability, or start usable and try to work its way towards power. The latter approach almost always beats the former.
A simple but usable product attracts new users, those new users eventually start demanding features, the features eventually get added, the new features make the product attractive to more people, some of those people become new users, they demand even more features, etc. It's a virtuous circle.
The powerful but complicated product, on the other hand, doesn't attract new users, and its existing users learn to live with its idiosyncrasies, either because they want to or because their boss orders them to. So there's never enough real pressure on the developers to make it truly usable, which means it doesn't attract new users, which means there's no pressure to make it more usable, etc. It's a vicious circle.
WordPress has been pursuing the start-simple-and-get-powerful model, and they've made a lot more progress in that direction over the last couple of years than the start-powerful-and-get-usable (Drupal, Plone, TYPO3, etc.) have at making themselves more usable.
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#45I'm surprised there's no mention of the vulnerabilities in Wordpress or its plugins. I've had nothing but virus infestations on nearly every Wordpress install I've set up. I'm sure the problem lies more with the random plugins, but Wordpress itself sure makes it easy to find and install plugins with no kind of security audit.
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#46• If you are looking for an All-in-one Content Management System, I doubt WordPress or any other competitors would satisfy you.
• WordPress comes with an attitude and a path. And as long as you are in this same attitude and path, you are fine. Otherwise it's best to part ways...and stop complaining...
• You should have spent more time building plugins to complement the WordPress System. You waited for others to deliver to you... (which is a bad call for a developer of your stature)
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#47What's the alternative?
Drupal. (Although it has it share of cons too, it can do many of the items on the list. Some require coercing, but doable.) edit, in progress: - Document management- No, not Word, Excel files etc. but can do revisions/diffs on site content, and manage files to some degree. - Workflow management- http://drupal.org/project/workflow - Digital asset management- http://drupal.org/project/media - Link management - http://d…
Disclaimer: i've used Drupal for a couple of projects and I like it for its easyness for noncoder, this is just about the cons:
Drupal is very good and powerful (i think the best part is the ability to create custom contents with CCK - now included in core in D7), surely more "CMS" than WP, but it's far from being perfect. As someone wrote in another comment, sometimes it's a nightmare (theming or just finding the right module and hoping it wont give you problems with other modules).
There are also people saying it has become more and more overbloated
http://www.unleashedmind.com/en/blog/sun/the-drupal-crisis
others stating that it's better to move to more developing oriented framework:
http://erickennedy.org/Drupal-7-Reasons-to-Switch
and big consulting company that has worked with Drupal and is now moving to other:
http://drupalradar.com/breaking-development-seed-quits-drupa...
I think every single CMS/platform/framework can be criticized or even demonized if you search well.
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#48Time and again, people want to use a hacked up blogging engine as a CMS and lament that it is not working. Use a CMS that's been around for more than decade which has all the features you want in a proper CMS (single sign on, WYSIWGY, multi-lingual support, a huge community of developers and service providers). ie., Plone -- http://plone.org
The problem with CMSes that have "all the features you want" is that they have so many features that the average user who just needs to plonk some content down on a page and periodically edit it can't wade through all the features to figure out how to do that. (I don't say this to pick on Plone -- I'm a big fan of the TYPO3[1] CMS, for instance, which does lots of the things that he mentions very well, but the downsi…
A few years ago i recommended website baker as a nice simple CMS, which is also hackable if necessary. That was three years ago. Maybe the situation has changed, but i would never recommend a complexity-monster like Typo3. Typo3 is "enterprisy" in the negative sense.
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#49Wait so he's complaining that a free piece of software that is designed to "create a beautiful website or blog" (from Wordpress.org) doesn't cut it as a high powered CMS? I think if we're honest, wordpress is a blogging platform and if you try to deform it into your own little niche needs, you need to accept the inherent risks.
In order to be deformable and retain its function, you have to build the program in ways that allow it to deform. You have to decouple the various functions. That's why I love Plone so much. Sure, it's alien technology for most, but it's so great I can't stand most CMSs I see being used and marketed as "professional tools".
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#50Wordpress is still great for small businesses. The problems he was listing off tend to be issues for large organizations.