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Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

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Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

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post #5

It's funny that in another thread I was just talking about Jeff Dean or Dennis Hassabis being a much better Google CEO than Sundar. He shouldn't ,,present a solution''. He should take over incompetent leadership.

which "he" do you mean?

Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

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post #5

It's funny that in another thread I was just talking about Jeff Dean or Dennis Hassabis being a much better Google CEO than Sundar. He shouldn't ,,present a solution''. He should take over incompetent leadership.

which "he" do you mean?

In the article it's Jeff Dean.

Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

#13
I perceive google as a less stable company than most. An equally effective product in any of the areas they occupy, coupled with leadership and commitment to not shut the product down after six months isn’t that high of a bar to compete with, should someone else desire.

The real issue is Google is in bed with the CIA and many other agencies and are willing to play ball for all kinds of kickbacks. Competing with their products has a technically feasible angle, but competing their position within the power structure of the non-separated tech and state? Impossible, at this point.

Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

#14

If it's as privacy intrusive as the rest of its products I won't use it neither promote it. Its the main reason most non tech savys avoided buying Google home. But the product teams are tone deaf. Bring on a privacy first system/eco system!

Apple has privacy in the forefront of its ecosystem.

Oh come on, Apple has had numerous privacy issues as well.

What about uploading every photo to their server to check for child porn?

What about uploading every binary you run to their server to check if its “approved”?

People really need to put down their “sheeple” glasses. Apple is a huge public company like all the others, beholden to profit their shareholders and thats it.

All that virtue signalling that they do is just a smokescreen. They are not any better or worse than MS/Google/Amazon etc…

Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has privacy in its marketing, but honestly they are intrusive in every way. Take a look at the processes or network traffic from any mac or iphone.

Take a look at their messaging service that they marketed for years as E2EE while it was closed source and uploaded the chat messages readable by Apple to the cloud

weak encryption or clear format ?

Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

#17
After trying out their adwords platform for a year combined with the fact that search in general has plummeted in quality i can't wait for them to crash completely.

Adwords is such a scummy endeavour that squeezes more or less all companies using it, but more so smaller players. They are not a friendly company. They are a MegaCorp that is so monopolistic and dark (design) in its behaviours it's incredible that it's legal.

Hope alternatives would be better.

Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

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I perceive google as a less stable company than most. An equally effective product in any of the areas they occupy, coupled with leadership and commitment to not shut the product down after six months isn’t that high of a bar to compete with, should someone else desire. The real issue is Google is in bed with the CIA and many other agencies and are willing to play ball for all kinds of kickbacks. Competing with their…

Google has lots of useful products that aren’t advertising-based, but they mostly seem to be loss leaders.

It seems by their own making, too: they famously shut down everything after a long enough experiment phase of, “how might we leverage this to sell ads?”

Something like 80% of Google’s revenue is advertising.

Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight

#20
I wonder where Google ("improving quality to compete") and Open ai/Microsoft ("reducing quality to advertise") will end up meeting.

If GPTSearch ends up as infested with spam and ads as Google it will be little more than a new input interface with embedded ads in the output.

Part of the appeal right now (for me) is it's lack of SEO spam and over the top ads.

That won't last (obviously), at least not for their mainstream implementation.

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