I'm sure once AI understand copyright law, this will cease to be an issue. :-)
AI is in danger of being swallowed up by copyright law
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#82Apple sued Microsoft for the "look" of a GUI and lost.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an extension of this, only allow children to look at works they purchased publication rights to, lest their creative output becomes influenced by a different person's style.
AI is not human children.
I can instruct an AI to draw Mickey Mouse and infringe copyright and I can instruct a child to draw Mickey Mouse and infringe copyright.
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#84Re: AI is in danger of being swallowed up by copyright law
#85This post reflects the author's very poor understanding of neural networks, software licenses and copyright law, and borders on misinformation. Please share this kind of shit on Twitter instead. If your AI is spitting derivative works or straight-up verbatim copies of the original, stripped of a license, and given the original license even allows derivative works, then yes, you better lawyer up. This applies to both…
I don’t think it’s a big deal if your AI spits out copyrighted images. My scanner, camera phone, photoshop etc can also easily spit out copyrighted images. It’s ok if I just print them out for my wall at home, but if I try to sell them it becomes a problem.
So then I guess these new AI models are only problematic if someone tries to sell them (as its essentially selling copyrighted works) but an open source model is probably fair game. Individuals can use it, but if you try to monetize you better not be infringing.
Seems like something like YouTube’s content ID solution for detecting copyrighted works could be a “quick” fix here. You can sell access to your model but not to generate copyrighted works
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#86I'm sure once AI understand copyright law, this will cease to be an issue. :-)
Absolutely. Even AI will easily Manipulate Everything.
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#87> If the AI industry is to survive, we need a clear legal rule that neural networks, and the outputs they produce, are not presumed to be copies of the data used to train them. Otherwise, the entire industry will be plagued with lawsuits that will stifle innovation and only enrich plaintiff’s lawyers Or maybe, get this, how about people running AI only feed them information that they legally have the right to use? Ho…
> Or maybe, get this, how about people running AI only feed them information that they legally have the right to use? How is it a bad thing that somebody can't legally steal other peoples' work without their permission because of pesky copyright?
On one extreme:
"Unless you pay your annual Disney fee for having watched Disney films in early childhood, you will need to return your brain to us for processing. Disney was used as the basis for all concepts you know, and as such, Disney owns all subsequent intellectual output of your brain."
And on the other:
In the age of AI, copyright will cease to hold weight. We'll make more new content on a per-month basis than all of recorded human history. The old regime must be thrown away to accommodate the radically new world we're entering.
We'll land somewhere in-between, and I'm hoping it's much closer to (or even precisely) the latter.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
AI is not human children.
I can instruct an AI to draw Mickey Mouse and infringe copyright and I can instruct a child to draw Mickey Mouse and infringe copyright.
The problem is there's no way a user will know whose copyright they are infringing when they ask AI to "paint a landscape."
Maybe the AI needs to be able to print out a list of sources to provide attribution. That would be interesting.
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#89> If the AI industry is to survive, we need a clear legal rule that neural networks, and the outputs they produce, are not presumed to be copies of the data used to train them. Otherwise, the entire industry will be plagued with lawsuits that will stifle innovation and only enrich plaintiff’s lawyers Or maybe, get this, how about people running AI only feed them information that they legally have the right to use? Ho…
Copyright only governs publishing. So you have the right to train AI with any and all data you have access to, as far as copyright is concerned.
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#90> If the AI industry is to survive, we need a clear legal rule that neural networks, and the outputs they produce, are not presumed to be copies of the data used to train them. Otherwise, the entire industry will be plagued with lawsuits that will stifle innovation and only enrich plaintiff’s lawyers Or maybe, get this, how about people running AI only feed them information that they legally have the right to use? Ho…
Copyright only governs publishing. So you have the right to train AI with any and all data you have access to, as far as copyright is concerned.
Train it on, perhaps. But personal not-published use is a rather small niche compared to the current commercial explosion.