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Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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I mean, "was considered anti-Trans by some" is pretty charitable for that episode. It is pretty overtly anti-trans, and the show as a whole was written by grahan linnehan who has also been vocally anti-trans

The classic issue with censorship. "I don't enjoy it, therefore, nobody should be allowed to enjoy it. And I won't be happy until nobody else can enjoy it. If you enjoy it, that makes you . And because I am not that, and nobody who is is for that content, it should be removed." Now... I will admit, it isn't always wrong (CP). But it often is the fruit of an unwitting narcissism.

The person you're engaging with wasn't making an argument about whether it should be censored, just that the pulled episode was clearly anti-trans

Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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There are already incidences of this: The TV show Community is missing an episode on Netflix for some reason (edit: reason was Ken Jeong in what could be interpreted as blackface). The IT Crowd is missing one in some geos because it was considered anti-Trans by some - that episode also has the unrelated and hilarious plot where Roy and Moss convince Jen that they're loaning her a "black box that holds the entire inte…

That’s not an instance of the Ministry of Truth. My brother in Christ, that’s a corporation doing that.

It’s worse than a government censorship org, because it’s all backroom pressure. It enables right-wing idiots to invent conspiracy.

60s cartoons are contraband. Stupid.

Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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One real danger of putting all historical video media on streaming sites is that it makes it far too easy to introduce an Orwellian Ministry of Truth that is empowered to rewrite the past to make it conform to today's acceptable social norms, academic ideologies, government agendas and so on. For example, one could make the argument that Alfred Hitchcock's entire library promotes negative stereotypes of women - and i…

> One real danger of putting all historical video media on streaming sites is that it makes it far too easy to introduce an Orwellian Ministry of Truth that is empowered to rewrite the past to make it conform to today's acceptable social norms, academic ideologies, government agendas and so on. I see such rewriting of the past, or at least attempts of that, on Wikipedia. It's not really hidden as there is a (hopefull…

>but who reads the edit history anyway?

Every time I look at a controversial article, and I'm unconvinced by the implicit narratives, I will look at the history, and more often than not there are interesting details lurking in the past versions.

And sometimes it's just fascinating looking at how details on a situation unrolled over time. Like for instance, go look at Jeffrey Epstein's Wikipedia history: there was an article on him preceding the publicity of his abuse.

I am under the impression right now that Wikipedia history is quite permanent unless an article is totally deleted, and that people do not prune the history of content they wish to censor. I hope it remains this way, cynically I don't think this will always be so, prove me wrong Wikipedia!

Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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This seems weird. No one disagrees that there are 2 biological (genetic) genders. Gender identity is something entirely else that is being actively researched. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/

This is incorrect. According to NIH there is no such thing as “biological (genetic) gender”. You’re thinking of biological sex. https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender

Even that's not really cut-and-dry. I don't normally like linking to twitter, but this thread is amazing (scientific) content: https://twitter.com/rebeccarhelm/status/1207834357639139328?...

Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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One real danger of putting all historical video media on streaming sites is that it makes it far too easy to introduce an Orwellian Ministry of Truth that is empowered to rewrite the past to make it conform to today's acceptable social norms, academic ideologies, government agendas and so on. For example, one could make the argument that Alfred Hitchcock's entire library promotes negative stereotypes of women - and i…

> One real danger of putting all historical video media on streaming sites is that it makes it far too easy to introduce an Orwellian Ministry of Truth that is empowered to rewrite the past to make it conform to today's acceptable social norms, academic ideologies, government agendas and so on. I see such rewriting of the past, or at least attempts of that, on Wikipedia. It's not really hidden as there is a (hopefull…

Could you give some examples of a page on Wikipedia being rewritten? I’m familiar with the incident of redefining what a ‘recession’ is but I’m always curious for more examples.

Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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I mean, "was considered anti-Trans by some" is pretty charitable for that episode. It is pretty overtly anti-trans, and the show as a whole was written by grahan linnehan who has also been vocally anti-trans

so don't watch it. with censorship nobody can watch it.

Right, why is it I can stream Hitler's speeches as much as I want, but this one episode is apparently too dangerous?

Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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Sort of like the anniversary edition of ET where Spielberg replaced the guns with walkie talkies, and other digital edits. Ironically he was criticized for too much smoking in the West Side Story remake. And sometimes a film I want is nowhere to be found, even a mainstream, older hit. I keep a few boxes of DVDs to make sure I can show them to the people stuck in the Matrix in the future!

The lack of smoking is something to ponder. It's always so glaring to me when TV shows that take place in the '80s and '90s show almost no one smoking, when in fact if you went into any public place, probably 30-50% (or more, if it's eg a pub) would be smoking, including in people's homes, offices and so forth. I wonder if the huge and realistic amounts of smoking seen in shows like Mad Men will be edited out one day…

Growing up in CA in the 90s I didn't see that much smoking. It was even banned in 1998, which means probably it wasn't that popular by then.

Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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post #85

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There are already incidences of this: The TV show Community is missing an episode on Netflix for some reason (edit: reason was Ken Jeong in what could be interpreted as blackface). The IT Crowd is missing one in some geos because it was considered anti-Trans by some - that episode also has the unrelated and hilarious plot where Roy and Moss convince Jen that they're loaning her a "black box that holds the entire inte…

I bought a copy of ‘Tropic Thunder’ for exactly this reason. One day it will be pulled from all streaming platforms due to RDJ playing a black man.

There really isn't another movie like tropic thunder Imo

Re: My husband was right about DVDs

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This is incorrect. According to NIH there is no such thing as “biological (genetic) gender”. You’re thinking of biological sex. https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender

Even that's not really cut-and-dry. I don't normally like linking to twitter, but this thread is amazing (scientific) content: https://twitter.com/rebeccarhelm/status/1207834357639139328?...

Totally agree, I was responding to the twin assertions that gender is based in genetics and that there only being two is widely accepted.
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