Programmer salaries in the age of LLMs • Hacker News Board

Re: Programmer salaries in the age of LLMs

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Post by btheshoe » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 5:05 AM UTC

karmasimida wrote: post #114

btheshoe wrote: post #73

I think this makes assumptions about the demand for software engineers that seem unproven. Law salaries are bimodal because the demand for lawyers is limited, so there's only so many big law firms that can exist. In the near future, at least, it seems like demand for software engineers far outstrips supply and I think this will stay true in the long run because the market for software engineers is just different from…

> it seems like demand for software engineers far outstrips supply Definitely not the case when layoff right now is in full force. Also this doesn't necessarily indicate high salary anyway. There is a huge demand for fruit picker, but due to the nature of economy and margin of business, the salary will stay deflated thus the shortage persists. In a high interests, no free money environment, will software firms still…

doomer take but tbh i respect it. but the central thesis of the tech industry is that it allows for products to be created with very low marginal cost which facilitates the high returns and if that thesis turns out to no longer be true then i would say that the identity of the tech industry has irrevocably changed.

Re: Programmer salaries in the age of LLMs

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Post by fexecve » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 11:21 PM UTC

geraneum wrote: post #134

fexecve wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is research [1] that suggests using GPS navigation could impact your brain function negatively. Wrong, that research only shows that when you use a GPS, you don't learn routes as quickly. That is only equal to "impacts brain function negatively" in a narrow sense, which you should specify rather than use such a broad and scary-sounding phrase!

> … could impact your brain function negatively. Brain function being negatively impacted is not scary on its own and not necessarily permanent. I didn’t mean to scare you. It’s likely you are confusing the above phrase with “your brain will be altered forever” which is not what it means.

Who said I was scared? I'm just pointing out that the phrase you used it very vague and some interpretations can be scary. It pays to be specific, especially in tech and medicine, you know? Winkyface.

Re: Programmer salaries in the age of LLMs

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Post by fellellor » Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 10:51 AM UTC

aetherson wrote: post #35

Comment here seem to largely miss the point of the article, which isn't saying that nobody will employ software engineers. It is saying that instead of the current model of: 1 very highly compensated staff+ engineer 4 highly compensated senior engineers 4 pretty well-compensated mid-level engineers 2 decently compensated junior engineers The future might look like: 1 yet-more-highly-compensated staff+ engineer who sp…

Humans have trouble error checking each other's code. Imagine an army of devs who are expected to read and error check a machine. It's an absolute nightmare and fits the literal definition of bullshit job. But if it pays someone will do it. I dont know how one would hire an army of these sad folk though.