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Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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Post by phonebucket »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #146
phonebucket wrote: post #139

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> Of course it can be misused, like any tool, but no amount of safety features in ChatGPT will make users of it more or less careful in their use of it. If someone using ChatGPT cares nothing for using it safely then it will likely end poorly, just like it will end poorly if I use a hammer without any care for using it safely. I'm not worried about hammers when I have them. I'm worried about hammers when someone who…

> Same with ChatGPT. I get this to some extent, I just really fail to see how the safetyisms applied to ChatGPT is really going to protect anyone, so I would appreciate if you could elaborate on this. One way which has somewhat been proven is, that through lowering the barrier to entry for writing software it has lowered the barrier to entry for writing malicious software, because malicious software is a kind of soft…

One example off the top of my head: what if ChatGPT was used to automate large scale personalised scamming?

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Post by danielbln »

Valakas_ wrote: post #144
danielbln wrote: post #133

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There will always be an edge to these massively operated central models that you can't easily run at home, due to compute and cost. Things like 4-bit quantization will help making these foundational models significantly easier to operate on smaller hardware, and of course you might not need a foundational model for manby local usecases, but maybe a smaller, more specialized LLM is enough (those can even be trained by…

Heh. Computers used fill an entire room, and cost the equivalent of a house. And now everyone carries one way more powerful in their pockets for the cost of a few meals in a restaurant.

And yet we have supercomputers that dwarf any phone.

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Post by ehnto »

trekkie1024 wrote: post #23
ehnto wrote: post #7

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I find it surprising that you can display any of it before the whole thing is done, since I would expect information dependencies between the start and the finish of a sentence or paragraphs. I have yet to really look into how these models work, they are black boxes to me.

From what I understand, these models generate the response one word at a time. Every time you see a new word appear at the end, the model is taking into consideration the entire chat history + its own answer so far to generate that next token.

Thanks for the comment, that's so fascinating since it seems to put limitations on thinking in general. A human for example can imagine future possibilities concurrently while speaking and correct themselves as they go.

It doesn't seem to map well tk how I put together a thought either, but admittedly I wouldn't really know how the mechanics of my brain do it, maybe it's not so different just with some auxiliary modules bolted on ha.

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Post by Sophira »

amelius wrote: post #129
flanked-evergl wrote: post #114

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So is my editor, my computer, my fingers, my eyes, my brain, the internet, google, stackoverflow, wikipedia, English, etc.

Yeah, but there is still a human between the code and its execution. I'm sure one of these days someone will hook GPT directly to a terminal.

It's already been done: https://github.com/greshake/Alice/

That said, in this case it's designed to always involve a human in the loop and it prompts before sending any data back to ChatGPT. But still.

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