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Re: 🥺: the best sudo replacement

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Post by mrwnmonm »

deathanatos wrote: post #91
chungy wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically speaking, no, HN doesn't render any titles. Your browser is displaying U+1F97A, which is sent over-the-wire as the bytes \xF0\x9F\xA5\xBA (UTF-8 encoding).

By "render" they probably meant "didn't strip"; HN will strip emoji from comments/titles, generally. E.g., the emoji of the article: "" but I suspect there won't be anything between the quotes. (An exception was made for the title, in this case; dang mentions that in a comment in the comments here.)

> By "render" they probably meant "didn't strip"

Yes, this is what I meant.

Re: 🥺: the best sudo replacement

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Post by int_19h »

Waterluvian wrote: post #163

“ has no pronounceable name in English or any other speakable human language.” I’m in love with this because it’s so silly. I’ve always wondered what would happen if you gave a company an unpronounceable name and it took off. My guess is that the community would name it and that would be that. But I’m fascinated to witness that process happen. I really hope Sado takes off. ;)

If there's a 1:1 mapping from some emoji to one of the basic Chinese logograms, we should just reuse the pronunciation of the latter as the name of the emoji. This one could be "qiu", for example.

Re: 🥺: the best sudo replacement

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Post by int_19h »

UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #31
warent wrote: post #24

For anyone wondering, this is basically a young millennial / gen z meme. The emoji is usually pronounced "pwease", as in a childlike pronunciation of "please" Therefore the command is basically just asking very nicely, hoping to get one's way edit. source: dude just trust me

A appreciate you 'describing' the emoji for me. I'm on the spectrum, and I can't tell 99% of these things apart. Looks like a sad face to me. no different then the 500 other sad face emoji's I find. I'll stick with =(

The nice thing about emojis being in Unicode is that you can copy/paste them and look them up, unlike embedded images. The reference name in the Unicode database conveys the original intent of the people who submitted it for standardization, at least.

Re: 🥺: the best sudo replacement

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Post by SLWW »

brundolf wrote: post #146
gumby wrote: post #87

Typing emoji is a pain, but the chat suggests that that might be an advantage: > Using this program requires you to be able to type an emoji. Most attack code is of such poor quality that they are unable to run commands named with emoji.

I'm really curious how much of a joke that was and wasn't

I think the author intended it as a valid criticism, though it's hard to tell given the passé stylistic choice that calls back to early internet (I am nostalgic for those days sometimes). However I disagree with that as it's just one more, fairly silly, obstacle to overcome. If this "replacement" ever did, theoretically, been seen as suitable, all that would happen would be that attack code would suddenly see an increase in quality.

If you've done any research into quality malware, exploits and the like (both domestic and foreign), the quality and often elegant solutions they come up with will not be somehow kneecapped by an emoji. It also only needs to support inputting one emoji in the event that someone uses this out in the field; not hard to do in shellcode.

Re: 🥺: the best sudo replacement

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Post by jacobmartin »

tux3 wrote: post #25
warent wrote: post #24

For anyone wondering, this is basically a young millennial / gen z meme. The emoji is usually pronounced "pwease", as in a childlike pronunciation of "please" Therefore the command is basically just asking very nicely, hoping to get one's way edit. source: dude just trust me

Alternatively, a good chunk of my twitter feed would call this the bottom emoji, without attempting to give it a pronunciation. I don't think any particular pronunciation has consensus, but various groups of people imbue it different meanings.

Yeah, I always read this as "bottom emoji" in my internal monologue, and that is how I search for it if I need to copy & paste it on a laptop or desktop lol.

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Post by aidenn0 »

doublepg23 wrote: post #298
azalemeth wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The are quite a lot of "gotchas" with passwords being Unicode though. One of my favourite tricks is to include a null byte in passwords and see what happens. Sudo treats it as the end of the string. Passwd gives "token manipulation error" and nopes out. Many websites seem to fail in interesting ways...

I've run into a service where having a password longer than 15 characters _truncates_ it but the password change dialog does not so it's stuck in limbo.

I ran into a service where the password entry input enforced a shorter length than the change password.

If I pasted my password it failed, but if I auto-filled from bitwarden it succeeded. Took me weeks to figure out why...

Re: 🥺: the best sudo replacement

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Post by aidenn0 »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #250
azalemeth wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The are quite a lot of "gotchas" with passwords being Unicode though. One of my favourite tricks is to include a null byte in passwords and see what happens. Sudo treats it as the end of the string. Passwd gives "token manipulation error" and nopes out. Many websites seem to fail in interesting ways...

This has nothing to do with Unicode (assuming that by "Unicode" you mean "UTF-8"). The null byte has the exact same meaning in UTF-8 as ASCII: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6907297/can-utf-8-contai...

If by Unicode you mean UCS-2 or UTF-16 though it applies.

Re: 🥺: the best sudo replacement

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Post by bobleeswagger »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #316
bobleeswagger wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do most of the websites you browse look like this?

"Unusual" isn't an insult; what's the actual problem?

It's unusual that there can't be negative feedback about a website. Different strokes.

I want to read the content, but I can't. The website is too distracting. Is that a valid problem for you, oh great oracle?

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