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Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by dylan604 »

kadoban wrote: post #136
dylan604 wrote: post #103

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are you suggesting it would be better to be on the lamb in remote parts right under the noses of the gov't attempting to be avoided? how well did that work out for Ted Kaczynski or Eric Rudolf and these were guys that loved the idea of living in the wilderness. how well do you think little ms pampered would make in a cabin in the woods?

> how well did that work out for Ted Kaczynski or Eric Rudolf and these were guys that loved the idea of living in the wilderness. Kaczynski lived in the woods for like 2 full decades, right? I'm not sure I get the point.

Where is Kaczynski now? Whether you run to a far off country living a decent maybe modest life before ultimately getting caught vs living like it's the 1800s in not very comfy lifestyle before getting caught, you still got caught. Do you really think ms iAmSomebodySpecial is going to live like the unibomber for 20 years?

so the point is why would someone recommend that a poshSpice type of person live like a mountain man? hell, even Heisenberg couldn't live in the woods by himself before escaping back to his home to his eventual capture.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by notch656c »

dylan604 wrote: post #103
JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #67

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Pro Pro tip: Don't buy anything, America as a landmass can be crossed from the Southern tip to Alaska with a simple car (however a LandCruiser or a Jeep would be better to face the offroad and/or the snow)

are you suggesting it would be better to be on the lamb in remote parts right under the noses of the gov't attempting to be avoided? how well did that work out for Ted Kaczynski or Eric Rudolf and these were guys that loved the idea of living in the wilderness. how well do you think little ms pampered would make in a cabin in the woods?

Kaczynski wasn't on the run and he had clear title to his property as I understand it. You could look up where he was in the property records.

He didn't get not captured because no one knew where Ted was. It's because they didn't know Ted was the guy doing the bad stuff.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by notch656c »

dylan604 wrote: post #141
kadoban wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how well did that work out for Ted Kaczynski or Eric Rudolf and these were guys that loved the idea of living in the wilderness. Kaczynski lived in the woods for like 2 full decades, right? I'm not sure I get the point.

Where is Kaczynski now? Whether you run to a far off country living a decent maybe modest life before ultimately getting caught vs living like it's the 1800s in not very comfy lifestyle before getting caught, you still got caught. Do you really think ms iAmSomebodySpecial is going to live like the unibomber for 20 years? so the point is why would someone recommend that a poshSpice type of person live like a mountain…

Ted was never meaningfully on the run. The place they found him was the same place with his name on it in the county assessor's office.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

dylan604 wrote: post #141
kadoban wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how well did that work out for Ted Kaczynski or Eric Rudolf and these were guys that loved the idea of living in the wilderness. Kaczynski lived in the woods for like 2 full decades, right? I'm not sure I get the point.

Where is Kaczynski now? Whether you run to a far off country living a decent maybe modest life before ultimately getting caught vs living like it's the 1800s in not very comfy lifestyle before getting caught, you still got caught. Do you really think ms iAmSomebodySpecial is going to live like the unibomber for 20 years? so the point is why would someone recommend that a poshSpice type of person live like a mountain…

Again these people are like Osama Bin Laden, Escobar or Chapo. Every cop in the US wanted to be the person capturing them, every administrator pleaded their superiors for resources to go after them, hell people became cops dreaming of making such arrest.

Nobody dreams of chasing a girl around the globe because she convinced some Private Equity Funds and Family Offices to finance a moonshot health bet and then couldn't face the reality that the bet would never convert and so she started lying.

The OneCoin girl for example, if she never sets foot in an airport and has cut ties with family and friends, they'll never get her.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by smegger001 »

notch656c wrote: post #98
paulpauper wrote: post #81

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these people are not exactly criminal masterminds. same for the FTX guy

FTX guy literally owned by proxy rights to a yacht. I seriously don't get why he didn't flee the island as soon as he knew the jig was up.

because then the US coast guard would grab him, and he didn't figure that the Bahaman authorities would do anything

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by ptero »

paxys wrote: post #44
ptero wrote: post #36

She could have bought the next day round trip ticket (which would still be stupid, but at least not as much). She could have flown to San Diego and drove over (and flew local airlines to some rural spot, preferably in a country with no extradition treaty). This is pretty ridiculous.

Not sure what the ridiculous part is? The prosecution is trying to argue that she is a flight risk. Her own behavior has made that pretty obvious.

My point is that in her situation disappearing was pretty easy. Buying a one-way ticket to Mexico 20 days out is as stupid as one can do, because now she will be labeled as a flight risk, making disappearance a lot harder.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by ptero »

paulpauper wrote: post #81
ptero wrote: post #36

She could have bought the next day round trip ticket (which would still be stupid, but at least not as much). She could have flown to San Diego and drove over (and flew local airlines to some rural spot, preferably in a country with no extradition treaty). This is pretty ridiculous.

these people are not exactly criminal masterminds. same for the FTX guy

FTX guy didn't really have time. One day he was rich and famous, next day he was a criminal.

Holmes had years to plan, as she knew for a long time that she is eventually going to jail.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by AnEro »

heywhatupboys wrote: post #37
AnEro wrote: post #21

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At this point does it matter that we are left with the assumption that the 'I'm not worried I'm too pretty go to jail' (paraphrasing) dude also tried to flee conviction

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She actually said that or something like it, hence the paraphrasing warning. Also still I stand by my point outside of her own comments on her appearance, with everything we know so far. That was the only comment off the top of my head that she made could relate about playing the system

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by ineedasername »

trevyn wrote: post #117
akiselev wrote: post #106

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There really aren't that many places that won't extradite an American back to America. Like, North Korea and maybe Iran. All the other countries famous for not having extradition treaties with the US like Vietnam are happy to extradite on a case by case basis. There are plenty of countries that won't extradite their nationals as a matter of policy like China, Russia, Switzerland, Lebanon, and so on (it's most of the…

Something I've always sort of wondered: If you live on a yacht in international waters, will the US Navy come and pick you up? For someone of Ms. Holmes' level of GTA stars.

What would Holmes’ GTA star level be? I mean, IRL in terms of absolute scale of crime maybe 2/5, but in-game it’s usually more violent activity only that gets stars. This needs further discussion, maybe with some consultation from Rockstar.
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