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Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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I read the whole article and most of the comments and I could not see any mention of whose bail money she was presumably willing to set on fire. I’m picturing mummy and daddy being turfed out of a palatial home by the sherif, all while stoically defending their daughter, but some actual facts would be nice.

Her husband is heir to a luxury hotel chain. Safe to say that they have the money.

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A woman, all women, absolutely ought to have the right to choose when and if they become pregnant. Even women who are charged with crimes. But if you’re her child 12 or so years from now, what is it going to look like that you were conceived under such circumstances?

The children have a father who is a luxury hotel mogul. They will be just fine.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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> Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court Another pro tip: round-trip tickets are often cheaper than one-way tickets, even if you don't plan to return! The "return" can be a long, long way in the future, too.

I challenge you to find a roundtrip ticket from anywhere to anywhere that is cheaper than the one way.

As part of her bachelor degree my SO spent 3 months in one of the west-African countries. On the way back, they wanted to meet up in South-Africa with some other students who had gone to a different country for a vacation before returning home.

Since she hates stuff like this, I was tasked with finding a cheap tickets. For the first trip from here in Norway to the west-African country, I found that the cheapest tickets were from KLM (who flew direct from Amsterdam, so only one stop), and the round-trip ticket was indeed about $300 cheaper than a one-way ticket.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Internationally it is common for a roundtrip to be cheaper than a one-way. No, not cheaper than two one-ways. Cheaper than one one-way.

I've had the situation where two round trips are cheaper than one. Especially if you are doing like a two day trip that looks like it might be business. E.g. LHR to JFK Mon to Wednesday.

That’s called back-to-back ticketing and the airlines really don’t like it. You can easily get your frequent flier account closed for doing that, if not sued for the price difference.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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A woman, all women, absolutely ought to have the right to choose when and if they become pregnant. Even women who are charged with crimes. But if you’re her child 12 or so years from now, what is it going to look like that you were conceived under such circumstances?

The same way it does now: as a pathetic ploy to secure a lighter sentence.

An alternative explanation that's just as plausible: Faced with an 11 year federal prison sentence at age 38, she saw this as her last chance to have biological children.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Pro Pro tip: Don't buy anything, America as a landmass can be crossed from the Southern tip to Alaska with a simple car (however a LandCruiser or a Jeep would be better to face the offroad and/or the snow)

are you suggesting it would be better to be on the lamb in remote parts right under the noses of the gov't attempting to be avoided? how well did that work out for Ted Kaczynski or Eric Rudolf and these were guys that loved the idea of living in the wilderness. how well do you think little ms pampered would make in a cabin in the woods?

> how well did that work out for Ted Kaczynski or Eric Rudolf and these were guys that loved the idea of living in the wilderness.

Kaczynski lived in the woods for like 2 full decades, right? I'm not sure I get the point.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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There really aren't that many places that won't extradite an American back to America. Like, North Korea and maybe Iran. All the other countries famous for not having extradition treaties with the US like Vietnam are happy to extradite on a case by case basis. There are plenty of countries that won't extradite their nationals as a matter of policy like China, Russia, Switzerland, Lebanon, and so on (it's most of the…

There are a lot of unrecognized territories in the world. Wa State, Western Sahara, Rojava, Palestine, Transnistria (remember hacker weev?), Ambazonia, Artsakh, wide swaths of factions in central Africa. It's impractical to extradite people from these regions, although perhaps if they're badly enough wanted the CIA can toss them in a bag and just straight up drive them out or bribe others to do same. It's thought for…

Would banishing yourself to Western Sahara for the rest of your life be that much better than spending a decade in some low security prison?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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There are a lot of unrecognized territories in the world. Wa State, Western Sahara, Rojava, Palestine, Transnistria (remember hacker weev?), Ambazonia, Artsakh, wide swaths of factions in central Africa. It's impractical to extradite people from these regions, although perhaps if they're badly enough wanted the CIA can toss them in a bag and just straight up drive them out or bribe others to do same. It's thought for…

Would banishing yourself to Western Sahara for the rest of your life be that much better than spending a decade in some low security prison?

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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sure, but once you're in mexico it's just a quick courtesy call to the airline to let them know you're an international fugitive from justice and won't be able to catch your return flight.

> it's just a quick courtesy call to the airline to let them know you're an international fugitive from justice For the return leg, you check in online, download your boarding pass, and ignore it. You "had a flat tyre on the way to the airport", or similar. In these situations, telling the truth doesn't help.

yeah you could do that, but wouldn't it be more fun to call the airport and tell them you're fleeing from the law?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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> Holmes’ partner, William Evans, also bought a one-way ticket “and did not return until approximately six weeks later, returning from a different continent,” prosecutors said. Did she buy the ticket herself or did someone book a trip and buy tickets for her/in her name? I don't support her but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. The one ticket sounds bad, but a series of tickets with eventual return do…

> I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Why would you be inclined to give a convicted fraudster the benefit of the doubt?

In the case of this ticket thing, when her significant other then went on the trip and came back, presumably not by himself. I'm willing to give the the benefit of the doubt here because we clearly are missing important information. Like I said, I don't support her.

In one sense, some justice has already been served as she is out of business and can't be in the medical business. I'm sure she is still subject to civil liabilities too. She is not an immediate danger to society, there is not a lot of value in locking her up. There would be more value in extended community service than there would be in confinement.

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