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Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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post #90

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I challenge you to find a roundtrip ticket from anywhere to anywhere that is cheaper than the one way.

I posted this down thread: E.g. LAX-NRT on 3/2 on UA 32 is $966 right now. Add a return flight on 3/9 and the flight _drops_ to $893.

Airlines really hate accounting for one way passenger flow.

This is actually an interesting problem in the crypto space as well with things like remittances.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#102
post #5

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Seriously? That's Orwellian.

Airlines also do it to prevent people from "gaming" the system. People buy multi leg tickets and miss parts of the flights purposely in order to get higher airline status and points, or just to get to one city cheaper. Sometimes, they take roundtrip flights on the same day back and forth to gain points and airline flyer club status.

> Airlines also do it to prevent people from "gaming" the system. People buy multi leg tickets and miss parts of the flights purposely in order to get higher airline status and points, or just to get to one city cheaper. Sometimes, they take roundtrip flights on the same day back and forth to gain points and airline flyer club status.

Late last year I flew aaa-bbb-aaa-bbb-ccc-ddd across Europe, all in one day, for exactly that reason. Five flights across four separate bookings/tickets. The connection at ccc was the tricky bit, not only "connecting" on a different ticket (so not really a connection), but a different airline alliance.

They design the system, you follow the rules. Unintended consequences aren't really your problem.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#103
post #3

Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court and in newspapers, and nobody will force you to take the trip back.

Pro Pro tip: Don't buy anything, America as a landmass can be crossed from the Southern tip to Alaska with a simple car (however a LandCruiser or a Jeep would be better to face the offroad and/or the snow)

are you suggesting it would be better to be on the lamb in remote parts right under the noses of the gov't attempting to be avoided? how well did that work out for Ted Kaczynski or Eric Rudolf and these were guys that loved the idea of living in the wilderness. how well do you think little ms pampered would make in a cabin in the woods?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#104
post #55

Holmes' explanation: > [T]his was a reservation that was made before the verdict. The hope was that the verdict would be different and Ms. Holmes would be able to make this trip to attend the wedding of close friends in Mexico. Given the verdict, she does not plan to take the trip — and therefore did not provide notice, seek permission, or request access to her passport (which the government has) for the trip. But sh…

A single-way ticket. Nah.

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#105
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court Another pro tip: round-trip tickets are often cheaper than one-way tickets, even if you don't plan to return! The "return" can be a long, long way in the future, too.

This may happen once in a while due to some algorithm weirdness, but it is absolutely not "often" the case.

No. It depends on the market, but if it is what's known as a "round-trip" market (typically international itineraries), it shifts to become "often" the case.

Airlines are all about price discrimination. Leisure travellers benefit inordinately from this behavior.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#106
post #76

As the article notes, US and Mex have bilateral extradition so it’s doubtful she intended to stay there to escape prison. She was likely going on to another country after that.

First you go to Mexico. Then you go somewhere without extradition. Although if I had high resources and was fleeing justice, I probably wouldn’t buy a ticket ahead of time. If anything I would book some domestic travel to be on flight manifests.

There really aren't that many places that won't extradite an American back to America. Like, North Korea and maybe Iran. All the other countries famous for not having extradition treaties with the US like Vietnam are happy to extradite on a case by case basis.

There are plenty of countries that won't extradite their nationals as a matter of policy like China, Russia, Switzerland, Lebanon, and so on (it's most of the world, probably), but the vast majority won't bat an eye to throwing her back to the US based LEO wolves.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#107
post #43

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This is a result of a strange pricing algorithm mistakes, right? Surely this doesn't maximize profit.

The average leisure traveler typically isn’t taking a two-day international trip. Airlines see an opportunity to extract more profit from business travelers who may not know their return date. A significant example is Lufthansa (and co) — multiple thousands of dollars to book a one way to Europe, under 800 for round trip.

I wonder if they don’t intend to offer one-ways at all, but are legally required to publish the tariffed pricing that nobody actually takes.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#108
post #76

As the article notes, US and Mex have bilateral extradition so it’s doubtful she intended to stay there to escape prison. She was likely going on to another country after that.

First you go to Mexico. Then you go somewhere without extradition. Although if I had high resources and was fleeing justice, I probably wouldn’t buy a ticket ahead of time. If anything I would book some domestic travel to be on flight manifests.

Cooba!

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#109
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court Another pro tip: round-trip tickets are often cheaper than one-way tickets, even if you don't plan to return! The "return" can be a long, long way in the future, too.

This may happen once in a while due to some algorithm weirdness, but it is absolutely not "often" the case.

> This may happen once in a while due to some algorithm weirdness, but it is absolutely not "often" the case

It's completely predictable, in fact I checked this claim at Google Flights before posting.

Say you want to fly from LON to NYC, next week, on OneWorld airlines, nonstop. Check the price for a one-way, then check the price when you add a return six months out.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#110
post #3

Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court and in newspapers, and nobody will force you to take the trip back.

Pro Pro tip: Don't buy anything, America as a landmass can be crossed from the Southern tip to Alaska with a simple car (however a LandCruiser or a Jeep would be better to face the offroad and/or the snow)

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