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Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by dwaite »

pxx wrote: post #34
uh_uh wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything, wouldn't airlines be happy if you already paid for the flight and miss it? Especially if they overbook.

Internationally it is common for a roundtrip to be cheaper than a one-way. No, not cheaper than two one-ways. Cheaper than one one-way.

> This is a result of a strange pricing algorithm mistakes, right? Surely this doesn't maximize profit

They tend to tier things so business travelers will pay more, so there may be fare rules that increase the cost dramatically the closer you get to departure date, or charge more if you do not stay a certain number of days (I've heard one week as well as requiring a 'Saturday stayover')

Of course business travelers are the ones most likely to research and plan out how to get around these, so they might book overlapping tickets pointing opposite directions and interleave them. Airlines get upset about this, but they also know that if they try to crack down that these travelers will just take their (substantial) business elsewhere.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by moralestapia »

ceejayoz wrote: post #29
annoyingnoob wrote: post #14

> Holmes’ partner, William Evans, also bought a one-way ticket “and did not return until approximately six weeks later, returning from a different continent,” prosecutors said. Did she buy the ticket herself or did someone book a trip and buy tickets for her/in her name? I don't support her but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. The one ticket sounds bad, but a series of tickets with eventual return do…

> I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Why would you be inclined to give a convicted fraudster the benefit of the doubt?

>Why would you be inclined to give a convicted fraudster the benefit of the doubt?

Lol, thanks for that!

I'm currently going through some sort of anxiety moment after I realized my whole life I had to defend myself over things I would never do. I built and sell a SaaS offering and there's always this element of "I have to convince the other party this is not a con" because after all you're a salesman to them and you're always going to be biased towards your product.

I then contrast that with people who are blatantly lying and I feel like I live in two different worlds, one for myself, one for those others. Bankman-Fried, ESG, Holmes of course, not only they steal but even afterwards they still get to have the "benefit of the doubt" and other people make excuses for them about their behavior etc ... where the explanation is quite simple and doesn't need 20/20 vision "they are fraudsters, they steal money through lies and their schemes". Clown world.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by logifail »

acchow wrote: post #43
pxx wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Internationally it is common for a roundtrip to be cheaper than a one-way. No, not cheaper than two one-ways. Cheaper than one one-way.

This is a result of a strange pricing algorithm mistakes, right? Surely this doesn't maximize profit.

> This is a result of a strange pricing algorithm mistakes, right? Surely this doesn't maximize profit.

The Saturday night stay rule is alive and well in certain markets. Business travellers like to be safely back home before the weekend, and their [employer's] pockets are deeper than leisure travellers.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by [deleted] »

paxys wrote: post #44
ptero wrote: post #36

She could have bought the next day round trip ticket (which would still be stupid, but at least not as much). She could have flown to San Diego and drove over (and flew local airlines to some rural spot, preferably in a country with no extradition treaty). This is pretty ridiculous.

Not sure what the ridiculous part is? The prosecution is trying to argue that she is a flight risk. Her own behavior has made that pretty obvious.

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by Invictus0 »

logifail wrote: post #56
sys32768 wrote: post #3

Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court and in newspapers, and nobody will force you to take the trip back.

> Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court Another pro tip: round-trip tickets are often cheaper than one-way tickets, even if you don't plan to return! The "return" can be a long, long way in the future, too.

I challenge you to find a roundtrip ticket from anywhere to anywhere that is cheaper than the one way.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by freitasm »

wl wrote: post #55

Holmes' explanation: > [T]his was a reservation that was made before the verdict. The hope was that the verdict would be different and Ms. Holmes would be able to make this trip to attend the wedding of close friends in Mexico. Given the verdict, she does not plan to take the trip — and therefore did not provide notice, seek permission, or request access to her passport (which the government has) for the trip. But sh…

A single-way ticket.

Nah.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

sys32768 wrote: post #3

Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court and in newspapers, and nobody will force you to take the trip back.

Pro Pro tip: Don't buy anything, America as a landmass can be crossed from the Southern tip to Alaska with a simple car (however a LandCruiser or a Jeep would be better to face the offroad and/or the snow)

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by bombolo »

rockostrich wrote: post #4
sys32768 wrote: post #3

Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court and in newspapers, and nobody will force you to take the trip back.

You might be banned from flying that airline again if you don't get on the flight back without letting them know with a valid reason. Of course that's probably the least of your worries if you're fleeing your own country because of fraud.

Airlines aren't your parents.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Post by steven_noble »

I read the whole article and most of the comments and I could not see any mention of whose bail money she was presumably willing to set on fire. I’m picturing mummy and daddy being turfed out of a palatial home by the sherif, all while stoically defending their daughter, but some actual facts would be nice.
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