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Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Well if you miss the first leg, it'll be pretty difficult to use subsequent legs anyway.

No, people used to do this a lot deliberately because of airline pricing oddities. You'd book from your home airport --> your destination --> Tiny Airport X, then skip the second flight, because the price would often be much cheaper that way. Called "skiplagging": https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190226-the-travel-tri...

But that's not skipping the _first_ leg.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#52
A woman, all women, absolutely ought to have the right to choose when and if they become pregnant. Even women who are charged with crimes.

But if you’re her child 12 or so years from now, what is it going to look like that you were conceived under such circumstances?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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A woman, all women, absolutely ought to have the right to choose when and if they become pregnant. Even women who are charged with crimes. But if you’re her child 12 or so years from now, what is it going to look like that you were conceived under such circumstances?

well, shit happens, at least mommy's rich

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#54
post #38

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But they do pay for the return journey they didn't make, right? So where's the gain?

Internationally it is common for a roundtrip to be cheaper than a one-way. No, not cheaper than two one-ways. Cheaper than one one-way.

Ah that explains everything. When you introduce counter-economical mechanisms then you need Orwellian actions to keep them in place.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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Holmes' explanation:

> [T]his was a reservation that was made before the verdict. The hope was that the verdict would be different and Ms. Holmes would be able to make this trip to attend the wedding of close friends in Mexico. Given the verdict, she does not plan to take the trip — and therefore did not provide notice, seek permission, or request access to her passport (which the government has) for the trip. But she also had not yet cancelled the trip, amidst everything that has been going on. We will have her do so promptly and will provide you confirmation of that tomorrow.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.32...

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#56
post #3

Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court and in newspapers, and nobody will force you to take the trip back.

> Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court

Another pro tip: round-trip tickets are often cheaper than one-way tickets, even if you don't plan to return!

The "return" can be a long, long way in the future, too.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#57
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to take same day round trip flights all the time. Isn’t it normal for business travel? I could leave home at 7am, fly to stinky Sydney, meet my customers, and be home again by 7pm.

Yeah I don't think anybody would ever get on your case about tight turns that were possible. The problem only occurs when you book flights with segments that directly conflict with each other. Or depart within minutes of each other despite their origins being thousands of miles apart.

I've also been in cases where I've changed my itinerary and it was cheaper to just be a no-show--and rebook a one-way on possibly a different airline.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

#58
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's more of an issue with 'hidden city ticketing'/deliberately missing connections, because it's cheaper than buying a ticket to the layover location.

Right. It’s an issue when you buy a ticket from A to C with an A-B and B-C leg, and you get off in B. The ticket might be cheaper (than A-B) because the airline is competing with a direct A-C flight. But if it’s just A-B and B-A and you don’t take the return flight, no one cares. (I’ve even gotten flack for notifying the airline as a courtesy …)

For one-way markets what you have is true. For round-trip markets, typically internationally, what you have is not.

E.g. LAX-NRT on 3/2 on UA 32 is $966 right now. Add a return flight on 3/9 and the flight _drops_ to $893.

I'd be surprised any airline gave you flak for telling them you were missing a segment. They might try to charge you more (!).

Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud

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post #42
post #3

Pro tip: Always buy a round-trip ticket when you plan to flee fraud. It looks better in court and in newspapers, and nobody will force you to take the trip back.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that any international travel plans – whether round trip or not – made by a convicted felon awaiting sentencing is going to raise flags and will be blocked by the government.

The only possible redeeming feature of the round trip plan is that, when the government inevitably finds out about it, at least you have a slightly easier time explaining that you’d planned on coming back. I mean it is the thinnest probably-electroplated silver lining in the sense that they probably won’t believe you but at least there’s some minuscule evidence in your favor.
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