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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by mrguyorama »

yencabulator wrote: post #558
_cenw wrote: post #467

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Because we already arbitrarily assign different pronouns to different people, usually based solely on their appearance, and there is no harm in letting people pick which type of gendered (or less gendered, in the binary sense) association they'd rather have.

There's an easier fix for that, instead of having to memorize everyone's "unique" preference (xy/xor/xeps), change the language to avoid the issue. "They" for everyone is the only logical evolution. My native language doesn't have a he/she differentiation..

You don't have to memorize shit. When you refer to someone and they tell you "I prefer pronoun X" just use that pronoun for the rest of the interaction. If you interact with them regularly or they are important to you somehow, you will remember, the same as you remember a pet name or nickname or screenname. If you forget and interact with them again they will remind you. They will likely not be angry if you forget occasionally, and using their chosen pronouns will please them and endear them to you. They only get hurt if you obviously do it on purpose.

It's literally identical to the concept of learning someone's name, yet humans largely don't have a problem with that.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by mrguyorama »

RHSeeger wrote: post #320
karmaMeansCool wrote: post #289

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It's not good that you are uncomfortable when it asks you to talk about it with its preferred pronouns. It's 2023, it's about time you try to do what it ask you to do. When it tells you its preferred pronouns, try as hard as you can to follow it.

There's a difference, though, between > This person is female and I'm not comfortable referring to her as 'it' because females are 'she' and > This person is a human being, and 'it' is used to refer to objects. It's demeaning to call a human being 'it' and makes me uncomfortable The later is, at least imo, much more defensible.

If someone tells me they are happy and comfortable being referred to as "it", and that situation makes me uncomfortable, isn't that a "ME" problem?

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by mrguyorama »

kristofferR wrote: post #295
easrng wrote: post #129

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it isn't a guy and it uses it/its pronouns.

Guys doesn't refer to men anymore, it's now a neutral word that can refer to both genders.

A lot of people say this, and I WANT this to be true because I don't know of a similar term that really works. I don't think most women agree.

When my best friend came out as trans, I struggled to come up with a good way to refer to everyone as a group in a "hey everyone" kind of way. I eventually realized it's a stupid concept all together and walked into the room of my now mixed gendered friends while shouting "SUP CHODES!".

Went over very well. I recommend it.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

notch656c wrote: post #596
ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #573

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The British Crown hasn't had real power since 1649, but please continue complaining about nothing.

No you just (by constitution) have to swear allegiance to the crown to become a lawmaker, which makes you a perjurer if you don't acknowledge their power. Also is the monarch not commander in chief their armed forces? I thought being under the command of the queen / monarch was part of their oath. If your soldiers are sworn to do what the queen says that seems like a lot of potential power.

Yeah, it's crazy to me that the UK has no armed forces, the military are all personally bound to the monarch. The king has interfered in politics too, so arguments based on royalty not being active are off to a bad start.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by hmry »

Arnavion wrote: post #70
throwntoday wrote: post #45

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I took Japanese :S ドイツ語はぜんぜんわからない

"The German language doesn't understand?" :) (wa should be ga. wa means German is the subject that is doing the not-understanding.)

が marks the subject, and the subject of わかる is the thing that's being understood, not the thing that's doing the understanding. (Maybe you meant subject in the non-grammatical way? It's confusing.)

Either way, は is fine in this sentence to the best of my understanding. It marks ドイツ語 as the subject, and thus the thing being understood.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by notch656c »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #604
notch656c wrote: post #596

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No you just (by constitution) have to swear allegiance to the crown to become a lawmaker, which makes you a perjurer if you don't acknowledge their power. Also is the monarch not commander in chief their armed forces? I thought being under the command of the queen / monarch was part of their oath. If your soldiers are sworn to do what the queen says that seems like a lot of potential power.

Yeah, it's crazy to me that the UK has no armed forces, the military are all personally bound to the monarch. The king has interfered in politics too, so arguments based on royalty not being active are off to a bad start.

It's hilarious that even though I think my comment was misread, it turns out I think we both are right.

You read it as me talking about the military in the UK.

No I was talking about the Canadian military. They are bound to the queen and swear an oath to such, you know the one that lives in the UK.

It really illustrates the absurdity of the situation.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by yencabulator »

mrguyorama wrote: post #601
yencabulator wrote: post #558

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There's an easier fix for that, instead of having to memorize everyone's "unique" preference (xy/xor/xeps), change the language to avoid the issue. "They" for everyone is the only logical evolution. My native language doesn't have a he/she differentiation..

You don't have to memorize shit. When you refer to someone and they tell you "I prefer pronoun X" just use that pronoun for the rest of the interaction. If you interact with them regularly or they are important to you somehow, you will remember, the same as you remember a pet name or nickname or screenname. If you forget and interact with them again they will remind you. They will likely not be angry if you forget oc…

I don't know about you but I mostly refer to people with they/him/her/his/hers when they are not present.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by sschueller »

nibbleshifter wrote: post #443
yellow_lead wrote: post #438

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so are there any repercussions for hacking US entities from switzerland ? Not that I think there ought to be.

The Swiss tend to make your life vaguely difficult by confiscating your computers every now and then at the request of the US. You won't be extradited though. The Swiss could maybe prosecute domestically, but its not (currently) in the public interest to do so.

Even then the sentences are reasonable while in the US you go to jail for just as long as if you killed someone in some cases.

The ATT "hacker" got 41 month for guessing URLs. US sentences are insane.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by kazinator »

mrguyorama wrote: post #601
yencabulator wrote: post #558

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There's an easier fix for that, instead of having to memorize everyone's "unique" preference (xy/xor/xeps), change the language to avoid the issue. "They" for everyone is the only logical evolution. My native language doesn't have a he/she differentiation..

You don't have to memorize shit. When you refer to someone and they tell you "I prefer pronoun X" just use that pronoun for the rest of the interaction. If you interact with them regularly or they are important to you somehow, you will remember, the same as you remember a pet name or nickname or screenname. If you forget and interact with them again they will remind you. They will likely not be angry if you forget oc…

What? When you're interacting with a person, you don't need to know their pronouns. They are the first person in front of you, so the pronouns are "you" and "yours".

The third person pronouns kick in when talking about them, to someone else, almost certainly in their absence.

That may happen in writing.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by ceejayoz »

notch656c wrote: post #599
ceejayoz wrote: post #523

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Someone who continues to deliberately misgender after being told about it - especially using "he" when the person's name (Maia) is traditionally a woman's name - seems to care quite a bit.

If you use binary genders you use male or female ones and people tend to use the same pronouns once they start with them. If someone uses gendered pronouns you shouldn't take that to mean that's the one the subject prefers but rather that's the gender the person who wrote it perceived. If they truly don't care to perceive a gender then a 50 / 50 pick. When I look at it's picture I honestly couldn't tell you if I perc…

We don’t have to guess. They’re just openly transphobic. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34450709
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