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Why Tipping Is Impossible to Get Rid of in America

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Re: Why Tipping Is Impossible to Get Rid of in America

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Impossible? Maybe. Necessary? Absolutely. Tipping was originally a way to get your food before everyone else. It's not an economic business model.

Raise prices and be transparent with pricing - which is difficult with tipping since most people are bad at math and don't take out a calculator to see what $127 meal will really cost.

Tipping is a service tax and becoming an entitlement to a generation of workers who have never and likely will never have to really work.

No. Tipping is going away. Learn how to pay your employees properly.

Re: Why Tipping Is Impossible to Get Rid of in America

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> It seems like the only way to get rid of tipping in the US is for every restaurant to do it simultaneously, either by mutual decision (ha!) or through some kind of legislation (double ha!)

Another unmentioned way is if customers just get fed up with paying tips and start tipping less. I get annoyed with any digital payment screen that only offers default tip options of 18% or more and take my revenge by sometimes selecting no tip.

Re: Why Tipping Is Impossible to Get Rid of in America

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> It seems like the only way to get rid of tipping in the US is for every restaurant to do it simultaneously, either by mutual decision (ha!) or through some kind of legislation (double ha!) Another unmentioned way is if customers just get fed up with paying tips and start tipping less. I get annoyed with any digital payment screen that only offers default tip options of 18% or more and take my revenge by sometimes s…

>Customers simultaneously deciding to stop tipping (triple ha!)

I think it's easier for restaurants to stop tipping simultaneously than for every customer in America to stop.

Re: Why Tipping Is Impossible to Get Rid of in America

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> It seems like the only way to get rid of tipping in the US is for every restaurant to do it simultaneously, either by mutual decision (ha!) or through some kind of legislation (double ha!) Another unmentioned way is if customers just get fed up with paying tips and start tipping less. I get annoyed with any digital payment screen that only offers default tip options of 18% or more and take my revenge by sometimes s…

The problem with taking "revenge" is that you only hurt the employees. Assuming the employer is not stealing tips, not tipping doesn't affect the bosses at all. If you want revenge, stop visiting the place.

Re: Why Tipping Is Impossible to Get Rid of in America

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I think there is a 3rd possibility in how tipping ends: people get sick of tipping and stop doing it. It seems like every single transaction asks for a tip these days. I tip heavily, but even I am getting weary of tipping so often. Most of the time, it feels like the tip shouldn't be necessary; the employers should be covering the cost of the employee. If people get used to declining tip prompts, it's possible that we see this change in behavior make its way into the restaurant industry.

At least for me, personally, I'm nearly at the point where I want to stop tipping entirely. It just seems so unnecessary and just another way that the capital class deflects blame for inadequate employee pay.

Re: Why Tipping Is Impossible to Get Rid of in America

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The odd thing is how specific to restaurants it is, and only a handful of other industries.

You dont tip in any other context. If you want the deluxe experience you order the deluxe option.

To me this seems wrong. If tipping were so great then why isn't it universal? What is special about restaurants?

Taxis/Uber/Lyft want tips. Same with barbers/salons/spas.

I know that the gray market is a big factor. Untaxed cash transactions under the table. But it is weirdly institutionalized and normal.

We have just decided to politely tolerate certain kinds of trivial illegal activity. But all-cash businesses do become a key vehicle for money laundering, and thus does have wider negative impacts.

It's not just that some low wage employees get tax-free funds. It aids organized crime.

I'm not exactly sure why it works like this, and contrary to the title this article doesn't really explain why.

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