Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023 • Hacker News Board

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by treesknees » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:13 PM UTC

unshavedyak wrote: post #66

barnabee wrote: post #47

I don't think they realise the damage this change has done. I have been on board with or ambivalent about most of the changes. I don't care if there's less moderation, I think Twitter probably did have too many employees, and I like the idea of a paid account with fewer (preferably no) ads. I'd even have happily paid Twitter to continue using Tweetbot. But this has destroyed the trust and the user experience of many…

Sidenote, as an Ivory user i'm quite pleased with it. Getting an invite can be a bit challenging, currently. Following @ivory@tapbots.social for invites is how i got mine, fwiw. edit : https://tapbots.social/@ivory/109683219720510229 though it seems they intend to get Ivory out ASAP due to how this decision has impacted their business. So maybe waiting for Invites won't be needed for long

Challenging is an understatement. The beta invites are sent out in waves of 1000 every so often. It takes less than 15 seconds for all 1000 to be claimed[1].

[1] https://tapbots.social/@ivory/109552637982709508

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by kmeisthax » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:13 PM UTC

CharlesW wrote: post #142

Did this also break Mastodon migration tools like Movetodon? (It's not working for me as I type this.)

I checked Debirdify a few days ago and it still works. Technically speaking these aren't against the new policy. However, since Musk's Twitter is governed on Maoist[0] principles, who can say if the policy hasn't already changed?

[0] Specifically, the sense that the rules governing the platform are never told to you until after you break them, as to encourage overcompliance and obfuscate when or if rules change.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by notwhereyouare » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:13 PM UTC

nomel wrote: post #168

haidev wrote: post #21

Won't this hurt Elon in the long run? I was never able to stand the official Twitter app it's filled with ads and irrelevant clutter. I think since moving to Android Tweetbot is one of the few apps I miss from having on my phone. I was still enjoying the Mac version. I guess I will stick to Nitter [0] from now on. [0] - https://nitter.net/

> filled with ads and irrelevant clutter. I always assumed the third party clients just provided a better interface. I didn't realize they circumvented the income stream. If the third party clients were removing the means of monetization, for a company who struggles to profit, then it seems obvious that requiring paid access on its way, regardless of the owner. Twitter can't go forever at a loss. The "surprise" is su…

I think it's more that the API didn't return the ads to the client. If they required 3rd party clients to include the ad's in the feed and grounds for termination of the API key if they weren't that would be a different story

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by MandieD » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:13 PM UTC

Swizec wrote: post #120

barnabee wrote: post #47

I don't think they realise the damage this change has done. I have been on board with or ambivalent about most of the changes. I don't care if there's less moderation, I think Twitter probably did have too many employees, and I like the idea of a paid account with fewer (preferably no) ads. I'd even have happily paid Twitter to continue using Tweetbot. But this has destroyed the trust and the user experience of many…

> But this has destroyed the trust and the user experience of many of the power users who are most engaged with Twitter As the "author" of some 80,000+ tweets (can't find number anymore), their mobile app was unusable. I've been on TweetBot for close to 10 years I think. TweetBot2 was my first mobile twitter client iirc. No more mobile twitter for me. Shame. But probably better this way. It really hasn't felt like a…

All of the drama of the last three months has helped me finally kick that filthy habit, so thanks, Elon.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by ask_b123 » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:13 PM UTC

tmpz22 wrote: post #12

ask_b123 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this mean?

Calling someone "King {adjective}" is saying they are not just {adjective} they are the King of {adjective}s

Ha, I was confused as to whether this was a strangely worded compliment or a strangely worded insult.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by seydor » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:13 PM UTC

Twitter's PR department may have become deliberately obnoxious, but i must say the reactions and shaking fists of twitter users remind me sooo much of the times when facebook was making a major change to their website and everybody was moving to canada or sth

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by alixanderwang » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:14 PM UTC

Why are they having the funeral less than 2 weeks after a "suspension" of the API, after 10+ years of work?

Twitter under the new management is making rash decisions but also has been reversing many.

I still have Tweetbot app on my phone in hopes that it's temporary. Has there been anything definitive to say that won't be the case?

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by ssnistfajen » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:14 PM UTC

system16 wrote: post #75

jmann99999 wrote: post #31

I just don't see the replacement for Twitter as Mastodon -- which it seems the Tweetbot people are targeting. Twitter will likely file for bankruptcy later this year due to the debt burden. However, the replacement for Twitter won't be a Twitter "clone." Things will move on. I'm not smart enough to know what people will move on to... But they will move on.

I said the same thing even a few weeks ago, but the momentum for Mastodon is growing rapidly and it's really impressive to see, and Ivory is a very impressive client even in beta. Almost everyone I followed on Twitter is using it now, and I actually prefer the experience. It's like Twitter but without all the bots/spam/hate, at least for now.

Server fragmentation is still kind of a pain point for Mastodon, but perhaps a better thing in the long term as it also gives us the ability to have a feed with more focused topics.

The good thing is most people I follow on Mastodon have stopped talking/complaining about Twitter unlike the first few weeks of the migration wave. The platform can only thrive when it hatches original content.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by dylan604 » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:15 PM UTC

riazrizvi wrote: post #134

ericmay wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the saying? First they came for the moderation, but I didn't care because they weren't moderating me. Then they fired employees so as to not have to pay severance or whatever but I didn't care because I don't work at Twitter. Then they came for the API and there was noone left to speak for me... Twitter and Elon have already done quite a bit of damage to the company, platform, and reputation. This is just a co…

This feels like the same thing with Gawker and the HBO show Silicon Valley. It feels like people with money are shutting down, neutering, avenues where they receive criticism. Since much of the money for the buyout came from the Saudis and the Chinese, it feels like the people behind this are more concerned with subduing Twitter than turning a profit. Maybe why they had to make it private, it’s illegal to run a publi…

>Since much of the money for the buyout came from the Saudis and the Chinese,

ooooo, I like the dark place you're taking this. I didn't give one iota about Twitter before the Musk debacle, but I have been enjoying the shit show since it started. I can't stop paying attention into just how much of a future Business 101 case study this will become. I remember when everyone said how Reed Hasting navigated the Netflix debacle of trying to separate the DVD side of the business as a future case study. I feel like Musk saw that and said, "hold my beer! I'll show you how to ruin a company's brand!!!"

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by yamtaddle » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 8:15 PM UTC

peanuty1 wrote: post #180

yamtaddle wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I followed some of that and it was especially funny that he had just been defending Musk and posting some "well he's a super-genius—you know, like all us rich SV types—so we should give him the benefit of the doubt" sort of stuff, right before that happened. The whole thing was truly beautiful. Overall, Musk's acquisition has provided some excellent entertainment.

"It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX." - Paul Graham https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1592852796185128961

His quick turn around (there was some, "oh, huh, when you put it that way, perhaps he is making some questionable choices" interaction with another poster) right before the ban was maybe the most perfect example of "I never thought the face-eating leopard would eat my face!" I've ever seen. A moment of dawning realization an instant before the face gets eaten. It was perfect.