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Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

#351

I don't invite people over anymore because their fussiness scales negatively - where if you want to mix 5 people who each have a rule about what they cannot abide, the common denominator is rarely special enough to leave the house for. Between the discretionary lifestyle demands of vegetarians, vegans, non-glutens, non-porks, non-drinkers, anti-smokers, non-problematics, non-outdoorsies, hover-parents, maskers, and t…

> lifestyle demands of vegetarians, vegans, non-glutens, non-porks, non-drinkers, anti-smokers, non-problematics, non-outdoorsies, hover-parents, maskers...

> we have encouraged widespread neuroticism and anxiety...

Are they neurotic or are you projecting?

I have friends from many of those lifestyles, while myself, I am a "non-pork". But have never worried about what my friends with different lifestyles want at my party. We invite them all and most show up. Vegans may bring their own food. Halal eaters can stick with vegetarian options, if any.

And I never been offended by pork options at my friends' parties. Almost always there are side dishes.

Our parties are very diverse and our friends are very tolerant and curious about different people. We had friends who would get offended by alcohol or non-halal meat but they ended friendship.

You don't need to go crazy for other people's lifestyle. Good friends will stick around, intolerant will leave.

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

#352

In this comment: I'll tell you why you should never host a dinner party, how to make new friends, why "cocktail parties" are better than dinner parties (even if you don't drink alcohol), and discuss the macro trends in parties and relationships. Hi! I wrote a book called "The 2-Hour Cocktail Party" that people seem to really like on Amazon and Audible. I've hosted hundreds of parties myself and personally coached 175…

I actually just took Nick up on the offer to call or text, and we just got off the phone. We chatted about how we can find people to meet even though we just moved to a new city.

Definitely going to try hosting our own party.

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

#353

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Things I've done to successfully restart my social life after Covid in the last year: * Restarted Crossfit. Social events have included BBQ's, meals out, trips away (normally CF related, but still great fun). Every box I've been to have been full of fun and interesting people. * Joined my local Wargaming/Boardgame club. Sit around drinking and playing games with a very varied bunch of people. Lots of nerds and the oc…

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> your post reeks of DINK and youth

Did you notice that they’re talking to a new grad?

“I can’t believe a young person would suggest youth oriented thing to another young person!”

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

#354
post #350

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I don't need a reminder I'm in the extreme minority, my whole life is a reminder of that every single day.

My point is in response to you saying that you find OP's sentiment condescending when it's clearly not even targeted at the few people that have these real issues.

No it clearly is targeted towards them too, judging from OP's other comments where they directly include people who have real issues.

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

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I don't invite people over anymore because their fussiness scales negatively - where if you want to mix 5 people who each have a rule about what they cannot abide, the common denominator is rarely special enough to leave the house for. Between the discretionary lifestyle demands of vegetarians, vegans, non-glutens, non-porks, non-drinkers, anti-smokers, non-problematics, non-outdoorsies, hover-parents, maskers, and t…

This idea is something if felt but have been unable to articulate. For example, one of my very close friends is an ultra progressive guy. He’s vegan and talks a lot about personal responsibility to combat climate change. He was condemning people partying at my house for using disposable vapes since the packaging and plastic is wasteful…never mind the 6 pack of beer bottles he brought! Another close friend is borderli…

> never mind the 6 pack of beer bottles he brought!

Glass is infinitely recyclable, whereas "disposable vapes" could be referring to just the cartridge (hopefully) but also could mean the full-fledged single-use vapes with a lithium battery inside. If its the latter, they really should switch to the former. If its the former then I think your friend was being a bit excessive griping about that but a 6 pack of infinitely recyclable glass is hardly a comparison to the perma-trash generated by plastic vape carts.

edit: just want to add, those lithium batteries aren't "disposable" because of any innate attribute of the battery, they're only "disposable" because they are sold that way. The batteries could have been reused if the company manufacturing the vape just designed it as such: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsJMj7FtroY

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

#356

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As someone who has health problems that forcibly put me in at least a few of those "discretionary lifestyle demands," it's a little condescending for you to just dismiss it later as "neuroticism and anxiety about maintaining purity." The worst is probably COVID-related -- immunocompromised people have been complaining for these past couple of years about how the world just stopped taking COVID seriously and they stil…

> Society is still effectively shut down for them and very few people seem to care. 1) I feel bad for you if you're genuinely sick and at risk, but I'm sure you know that there's a perception out there that many people are trying to milk Covid concerns merely to continue working from home or reaping other benefits that they value: and meantime they go out to restaurants and live life more or less normally. We all saw…

>many people are trying to milk Covid concerns merely to continue working from home or reaping other benefits that they value

How is this "milking" anything? The last few years have proved that lots of white collar jobs don't need to be done from an office building.

>Other than putting humanity in a total economic death spiral (that will be many times worse than Covid) I'm not sure what else can be done to give immunocompromised people a better situation.

This is a false dichotomy. The science is clear on this one. Continue wearing masks in public places, physical distancing, practicing basic hygiene, and continue requiring vaccinations. Yes, all of those things are proven to reduce transmission of COVID as well as other airborne viruses like the flu. Society doesn't need to shut down or enter a "death spiral" to do any of them. Leaders just caved to political pressure and stopped enforcing them.

>are genuinely trying to go out and live their lives as normally as they can and trying not to be a slave to their illness.

Yes, and they probably still have to wear masks and avoid certain places that are likely to carry an increased risk of infection. "Not being a slave to the illness" doesn't mean you go out and take stupid risks.

>Has anything qualitatively changed for immunocompromised people with Covid?

Yes, COVID is significantly more contagious than influenza, and causes more severe illness than influenza.

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

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My general thesis is that you have to do cool stuff to make new friends. Do interesting things to meet interesting people.

But it doesn’t have to be hard! The unlock or LPT I’ve found is that hosting a super simple small party- becoming the “organizer of people”- is the fastest, easiest way to become interesting to others.

After hosting hundreds of these small parties myself, I figured out a formula to make them effective, interesting, and ultimately successful. It is a method that can work for almost any person in any town.

First: the good news. ANYONE can learn how to make new friends. There are lots of people out there like you who are reading this HN thread or sitting in your town thinking, “Damn. I’m getting older, I have less friends, I wish I had more friends.”

But: the bad news. The macro trends on partying are down, and reports of loneliness are way up. Do a search for "loneliness epidemic" or "friendship recession," two phrases that I track with Google News Alerts, to see constant press pieces with supporting data showing people have way less friends and social interactions today than they did 10 years ago.

Here are the pro-tips if you want to host a well-run party or event or whatever:

- 15 to 20 attendees. You need 15 people, minimum, to show up to your party. Any less than that and the room never reaches a critical mass or energy level and excitement. It feels a little flat. I've found that 15 people needs to be your minimum, which means you'll need to invite more than 15 to actually get 15 to attend. Over 20 attendees and things get hectic and stressful for a new host.

- Collect RSVPs. PLEASE collect RSVPs. Use a free tool online. GenZ loves Partiful, I suggest and use Mixily, you can even use Paperless Post. Please don't use Evite because they have a thousand ads and JavaScript pop-up crap and they'll spam your guests.

Why should you collect RSVPs? Well, the biggest success indicator of a party- for a new host, at least- is whether they can fill the room. People come to parties for the PEOPLE, not for the drinks, not for the food, not for the music... they come for the people.

Here's what I know works. It all revolves around adding the slightest bit of structure to your gathering.

- Decide you’re going to host a party and commit to it.

- Pick a date for your party three weeks from now, ideally on a Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday night.

- Keep the length of your party to two hours.

- Invite your friends, colleagues, and neighbors.

- Ask everyone to RSVP and confirm their attendance.

- Space out three reminder messages leading up to your party.

At the party, do these four things:

1. Use name tags with first names only. I will die on the hill of why this is important.

2. Facilitate three quick icebreakers. They won't be cringe, I promise.

3. Take a group photo, you'll use this to help invite more people to your next party.

4. End the party on time. My book has a whole chapter on this or if you search for "How to end your party" I believe one of my articles will come up.

Follow those guidelines and you’ll have a gathering better than most. People appreciate the structure.

I wrote a step-by-step guidebook that seems to be generally well-liked enough that it has helped hundreds of people learn how to host their own events to make new friends and meet their neighbors.

The name of my book is The 2-Hour Cocktail Party: How to Build Big Relationships with Small Gatherings and you can find it anywhere books are sold plus Audible. Happy to give any HN readers a satisfaction guarantee if you don’t think it is packed with actionable, helpful advice.

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

#358

Last memorial day I tried to have a little BBQ... ended up eating and drinking by myself on/near the sidewalk in front of my apartment, while grilling and listening to a festive playlist with songs like Carry on my Wayward Son. I kept asking random people if they wanted a brat, but nobody did... until the guy towing my roommate's broken down car home arrived. The three of us shared one, the tow truck driver finished…

"Last memorial day I tried to have a little BBQ... ended up eating and drinking by myself on/near the sidewalk in front of my apartment, while grilling and listening to a festive playlist with songs like Carry on my Wayward Son. I kept asking random people if they wanted a brat, but nobody did..."

In the most polite way possible, I can see why you are not invited to parties very often...

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

#359

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And then you look again at the GP, and see that the only reasonable interpretation of "strong" that phrase can have has no relation at all with competence. Or worse, because bad times create broken people. And while broken people can stand adversity, they are much less able to create something non-broken.

Bad doesn't have to mean PTSD-inducing "walking dead" scenarios… Also, whether hardships makes or breaks you depends largely on your outlook and coping skills (this comes from someone who's had CPTSD and had to stop suicidal idealisation and learn coping skills in my late 20s). All skills diminish, if unused. Having too easy times means there's less need to "cope" It's very likely most millennials have poor coping sk…

> Bad doesn't have to mean PTSD-inducing "walking dead" scenarios…

When people say that phrase today, "bad" literally means WWII.

Re: Ask HN: Where are all the parties?

#360
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Thai rings true IME. My (small) social circle died out with COVID/remote work/moving to the city and I’ve struggled to make connections because I’m not the type to initiate events. Realizing now that I’ve taken for granted these organizing people and will have to be comfortable becoming the “shameless type” and risk rejection if I want to make friends.

I went through this probably a year ago and I think it’s probably something everyone should go through. Like immersion therapy for rejection.

Problem isn't just the fear of rejection. There are legitimate reasons why some people get rejected more than others, whether it's looks, social skills or just lack of shared interests.

If you are part of those people, the "return on investment" in terms of socialisation diminishes - it's not about fear per-se, it's about the rational decision of not sinking time into an endeavour with a high failure rate if you have other, better options.

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