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Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by seydor »

chc4 wrote: post #90

I've been on twitter since 2009 and have 100k+ tweet. Since they've killed all third-party clients I've basically stopped using twitter, and have no intention of using the (bad) official client. Good job Elon!

to all the people who claim this, i wish there was a RemindMe! feature to check back in a few months

People who have invested years of their lives writing thousands of tweets aren't giving up investments so easily. This is like real life investments or relationships, it takes a lot to break them

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by politician »

barnabee wrote: post #57
33955985 wrote: post #36

It was always odd to me that entire businesses relied on what was essentially the goodwill of a corporation. I think the same about things like microG in the Android world. They just… use Google’s API without paying and yet we think it’ll all work out?

Acessing APIs from 3rd party clients isn't "goodwill" and should be legally protected.

This is a tricky area. Do we legally protect access to unpublished APIs or only published, supported APIs? If there is no API, should we legally require an API? Should the API support 100% of the services operations or may it only support some subset? What if the API is unprofitable, can the business reduce the set of operations supported or remove it entirely? Can they even release a new version of the API and retire an older version?

What, exactly, are you asking for when you say that "accessing APIs from 3rd party clients ... should be legally protected"?

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by erk__ »

wstuartcl wrote: post #55
barnabee wrote: post #47

I don't think they realise the damage this change has done. I have been on board with or ambivalent about most of the changes. I don't care if there's less moderation, I think Twitter probably did have too many employees, and I like the idea of a paid account with fewer (preferably no) ads. I'd even have happily paid Twitter to continue using Tweetbot. But this has destroyed the trust and the user experience of many…

I also do not think Musk understands just who the primary userbase on many of these 3rd party apps were -- many of those pesky advertisers/brands that he seems to be both courting and at war with exclusively use api apps for tracking posting/responding and integrations.

One of the big ones Buffer [0] do not believe that they will be impacted this may not be an issue [1]

[0]: https://buffer.com

[1]: https://twitter.com/buffer/status/1616418191718207488

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by [deleted] »

rrix2 wrote: post #99
akovaski wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd happily donate 10x more to Ivory as an open source project than you'd make from selling it to me as a closed source app Tweetbot apparently cost $6/year, so are you saying you would donate $60/year if they released an open source Mastodon client? Are there other open source apps you donate to? I'm genuinely curious how people approach payment/donations for open source software, I'm not trying to pull some gotch…

i'm donating 5$/mo to no less than five open source patreon/opencollective right now

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Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#116

Post by ceejayoz »

tinyhouse wrote: post #95

Can someone please explain what Twitter blocked exactly? Did they block only 3rs party clients or anyone who is trying to read data from their APIs? From what I know about 15% of their revenue (now probably much more give) is coming from their data services.

They specifically forbade third-party clients that duplicate the Twitter.com / first-party Twitter app experience; Tweetbot, Twitterific, etc.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by r00fus »

SamoyedFurFluff wrote: post #92
shadowgovt wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She's still probably better off, because what happens next to Twitter will continue to be less and less pretty. The sooner people jump off the ship, the better for each of them.

Where will she jump to?

This discussion thread is rife with options like Ivory, Post, etc.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#119

Post by smoldesu »

ericmay wrote: post #76
barnabee wrote: post #47

I don't think they realise the damage this change has done. I have been on board with or ambivalent about most of the changes. I don't care if there's less moderation, I think Twitter probably did have too many employees, and I like the idea of a paid account with fewer (preferably no) ads. I'd even have happily paid Twitter to continue using Tweetbot. But this has destroyed the trust and the user experience of many…

What's the saying? First they came for the moderation, but I didn't care because they weren't moderating me. Then they fired employees so as to not have to pay severance or whatever but I didn't care because I don't work at Twitter. Then they came for the API and there was noone left to speak for me... Twitter and Elon have already done quite a bit of damage to the company, platform, and reputation. This is just a co…

I agree that people have held out way too long. My more nihilistic interpretation is that taking any of Twitter's functionality for granted was a mistake. It's a publicly traded business, and if you didn't want big money to ruin the experience, you shouldn't have put faith in money in the first place.

YouTube is on a similar precipice. People think it's irreplaceable because YouTube displaces every competitor. In truth, Google has simply monetized the distribution of video content so well that nobody else has a reason to compete. Streaming video on a competing platform is almost always a shitshow. But, eventually YouTube will fail or implement a heartbreaking change that forces everyone off. Maybe Larry Ellison will make a bid for it, and we'll complete the Lex Luthor arc for American billionaires. Either way, it's another "too big to fail" service that is sure to fall apart at some point.

If you want to avoid situations like this, take ownership of the media you like and don't let your voice rely on other people's platforms.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

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Post by Swizec »

barnabee wrote: post #47

I don't think they realise the damage this change has done. I have been on board with or ambivalent about most of the changes. I don't care if there's less moderation, I think Twitter probably did have too many employees, and I like the idea of a paid account with fewer (preferably no) ads. I'd even have happily paid Twitter to continue using Tweetbot. But this has destroyed the trust and the user experience of many…

> But this has destroyed the trust and the user experience of many of the power users who are most engaged with Twitter

As the "author" of some 80,000+ tweets (can't find number anymore), their mobile app was unusable. I've been on TweetBot for close to 10 years I think. TweetBot2 was my first mobile twitter client iirc.

No more mobile twitter for me. Shame. But probably better this way. It really hasn't felt like a fun place for the last 3 or 4 years. More like a cigarette habit you can't shake.

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