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Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#21
Won't this hurt Elon in the long run? I was never able to stand the official Twitter app it's filled with ads and irrelevant clutter. I think since moving to Android Tweetbot is one of the few apps I miss from having on my phone. I was still enjoying the Mac version. I guess I will stick to Nitter [0] from now on.

[0] - https://nitter.net/

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#22
post #10

And so ends my daily use of Twitter. I still haven't been able to get into Mastodon in the same way, but if Ivory is as good as Tweetbot was it might bring me around.

It is as good as Tweetbot. Using Ivory makes most of the "UX issues" of Mastodon go away ... almost.

Same. I was having trouble with Mastodon. Nothing felt right from a UI design perspective.

With Ivory I feel at home. Can’t wait to start paying for it.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#23
post #14

I have an old friend who is blind. The official Twitter client is a LOT less accessible than the one she was using. This change impacts her ability to use Twitter considerably. And before you start with the "well, she's probably better off" -- she lives in a small rural town. Twitter and Facebook and the like are one of her few connections to a larger world.

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Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#26
post #6

The question I have with this move is why didn't Twitter just force advertising as part of their API for third party clients? Just change the TOS for using the API so if they didn't show advertising they would be cut off. What am I missing?

Plus didn't the apps have to pay for api access? I know there was some contention around that when the push notification api changed.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#27
post #6

The question I have with this move is why didn't Twitter just force advertising as part of their API for third party clients? Just change the TOS for using the API so if they didn't show advertising they would be cut off. What am I missing?

The list of unforced errors is insane. Remember when pg was banned from Twitter for mentioning that he had a link to Mastodon on his website? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-suspends-account-paul...

Move fast and break your $44B investment.

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#28
Recent and related:

Twitterrific has been discontinued - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34445702 - Jan 2023 (355 comments)

Official Twitter Statement on Revoking API Access to 3rd Party Devs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34416416 - Jan 2023 (11 comments)

Twitter kicking off a developer API campaign on January 16, 2023 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34410624 - Jan 2023 (107 comments)

Tweetbot is back down again - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34396664 - Jan 2023 (210 comments)

The Shit Show - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34393485 - Jan 2023 (312 comments)

Twitter API Page - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34387834 - Jan 2023 (98 comments)

Twitter's API is down? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34363743 - Jan 2023 (408 comments)

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#29
post #19
post #6

The question I have with this move is why didn't Twitter just force advertising as part of their API for third party clients? Just change the TOS for using the API so if they didn't show advertising they would be cut off. What am I missing?

“Starting Feb 1st using a third part client will require Twitter Blue.” That’s all it would have taken. Probably would have made a huge increase in subscribers too. This is 100% a control move. He wants full control over how everyone experiences Twitter (not sure why). So this was pulled. Of course you can NEVER go back from this move.

That's actually a really good idea

Re: Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023

#30

Note this kind of thing happens all the time. VRChat instituted EAC to prevent client modifications late last year. Hundreds of developers and tens of thousands of users all had their mods stop working overnight. Projects that dozens of devs had poured countless hours into became instantly and utterly worthless. It’s insane that this is what the internet has become.

While I do get what you are saying VRChat shutdown is a pretty poor match to this scenario. the TOS for that always had a clear verboten against modifying the client and network traffic via 3rd party apps/patches.

In Twitters case, the API was shut down (with no warning) and then the TOS was updated to make the integrations verboten only well after there was a fairly huge backlash and late response of "clients were disabled that were violating api 'rules'" did not hold up against the actual rules in place.

I really do get the whole move fast and break things model, however this is Musk taking that model to mean put on blinders and run full speed while holding scissors in a crowded room with many walls -- consequences be damned.

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