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Ask HN: Has anyone successfully started their career over in their 30s?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone successfully started their career over in their 30s?

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To be honest, your biggest limitation is going to be your mindset, not your age. The fact that you can't see a path forward for yourself and using phrases like "execs who had no interest in leveling me up" (hint: it's your job to do that) and "I was a moron", does not bode well for your chances. You're going to have a hard time getting hired if this is the attitude you project, and you're going to have a hard time im…

with full agreement re. growth mindset, I've definitely worked with people above me who were more, less, and completely un- interested in leveling me up. It still makes a difference.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone successfully started their career over in their 30s?

#55
I didn't start over at 30, but I did start my first career around then!

Our stories sound familiar. I dropped out of grad school, delivered pizzas, dropped out of law school, worked a menial job for awhile. Before I knew it I was approaching 30 and I could barely pay my bills.

If you've got no idea where to start, consider taking a job as a recruiter. I doubt you're interested in that as a career path, but in that role you'll gain a HUGE amount of insight as to how the whole hiring process actually works, as well as a ton of information about what jobs are out there, what the day-to-day looks like for someone with a given job title, and what your resume would need to look like to get that job.

That's the path I took, anyway. I recruited for a year, plotted out a career path, and five years and three (progressively better) jobs later I had the exact job title that I'd set out for. Now I'm on to the next one :)

Getting a recruiting job should be pretty easy. Just make a list of all of the third party recruiting shops in your area and hound the absolute hell out of the hiring managers. Most recruiting managers I've met are "Always Be Closing" types who love high energy and tenacity. Call them once a week and pitch yourself. If you find one who says they're hiring, be friendly but don't take no for an answer. Tell them they're making a mistake. Tell them to give you a chance. Push through "no" until they hang up on you. One will take this as a sign that they can't live without you.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone successfully started their career over in their 30s?

#57
Yes.

You can absolutely remake your career in your thirties. You can even do it in your forties, and I suspect we'll see people in their fifties doing it too.

We just don't live in a world where everyone gets a job at 22, stays in that field and job for thirty years, then retires with a pension. Tech moves too fast, and macro economic forces basically necessitate that workers become flexible. Gig work, or 2-3 year duration contract work, is going to be the future of most employment.

If we accept that, then the idea of changing your career at basically any age makes sense. The anxiety you're feeling comes from unrealistic expectations - that you'll have a stable career, chosen at 22, from which you won't depart. Not only is that untrue in today's world, it's also profoundly boring. I can't imagine doing the same thing for more than a couple of years; I'd get so incredibly bored

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone successfully started their career over in their 30s?

#58
Yes, I went from a poorly-paid tech support manager at a University to working at a startup on machine learning. Took me 10 years though. But I worked my way up and constantly worked on improving my knowledge.

Responses to your questions:

> Is there any hope for someone like me?

Yes, of course. Unless you decide you want to build a fusion reactor in your backyard, I'm sure you can level up and get a good job.

> Is there any reasonable path to starting over?

Yes, rewrite your resume. Make your great accomplishments stand out. Gloss over the past few years with some bullshit. No one cares that much. They care that you're hungry and you're willing to work hard.

> Where do I even begin?

What do you know? What do you want to do? Figure out the path from the former to the latter. Rewrite your resume. Get online and start researching. Every day. Apply to jobs. Eventually you'll find someone willing to give you a chance.

> Will tech co’s ever consider hiring someone like me?

Are you hungry? If so, yes. Save the pity party for your throwaway accounts. If you want to learn and build and excel, make sure everyone knows it. Even if inside you're completely unsure of yourself. Most people are, anyway. Just keep showing up every day.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone successfully started their career over in their 30s?

#59
>Is there any hope for someone like me? >Is there any reasonable path to starting over? >Where do I even begin? >Will tech co’s ever consider hiring someone like me?

Frankly, that reads like a recruitment poster. If you are asking yourself such questions, have you considered the military? There are all sorts of tech-related jobs in the military that are way more interesting than the civilian equivalent. Whatever you do, the military would give you a clear path for advancement and improvement. Even if you don't stick with it, a few years of military experience doesn't hurt a resume.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone successfully started their career over in their 30s?

#60

You need to hire a mentor to guide you in correct way to improve yourself in correct direction.

Where do I find one?

Don't worry much about ages. You can always start whenever you want, but of course, the sooner, the better.

You can find some good programming Discord groups for programmers and join to discuss there.

But be cautious with your goal: Money first, or Long term career path to be a good software engineer. There's difference between the two based on your choices.

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