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Re: Got laid off from Microsoft yesterday with 10.000 people

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Post by okamiueru »

mrcwinn wrote: post #28
okamiueru wrote: post #17

Can someone shed some light how this works in the US? What are the conditions for termination there? Do you get X months severance?

Different states have varying legal requirements, though many tech companies anchor to California because it often sets the floor. So if you solve for California, you're likely solving for most of your workforce. In general, yes, at major tech companies there is severance, payout of any accrued paid time off, and sometimes there's additional payment to cover COBRA payments for 1+ month(s), as well as resources for fi…

Thanks for the nice explanation. What are COBRA and H1B?

COBRA is specific to the US? Related to extend some sort of private health care coverage they had under the employer?

And H1B are for non-Americans who were allowed to stay on the condition of having an employer?

Could you clarify what the conditions are for california? How many months of salary is covered? How immediate is the effect of termination in terms of "pack your bags". Etc

Re: Got laid off from Microsoft yesterday with 10.000 people

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Post by danpalmer »

_vertigo wrote: post #15
danpalmer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please try to be a little more sensitive, bear in mind who you're replying to and what they're going through.

While I sympathize with those who were laid off, being laid off doesn't give you license to pass off wild speculation as fact in a post like this.

Perhaps, but questioning can be done in better ways, as others have done on this post.

Re: Got laid off from Microsoft yesterday with 10.000 people

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Post by danpalmer »

seaman1921 wrote: post #25
danpalmer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please try to be a little more sensitive, bear in mind who you're replying to and what they're going through.

please - layoff with fat severance does not give them a license to spread misinformation

It's not confirmed that this is misinformation. I agree it sounds unlikely, but that comment can be delivered with much more compassion. Remember, this is someone who may be feeling upset, angry, frustrated, or many other things.

Re: Got laid off from Microsoft yesterday with 10.000 people

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Post by uNIeGGERmployed »

danpalmer wrote: post #35
seaman1921 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

please - layoff with fat severance does not give them a license to spread misinformation

It's not confirmed that this is misinformation. I agree it sounds unlikely, but that comment can be delivered with much more compassion. Remember, this is someone who may be feeling upset, angry, frustrated, or many other things.

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Re: Got laid off from Microsoft yesterday with 10.000 people

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Post by danpalmer »

luckylion wrote: post #19
danpalmer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please try to be a little more sensitive, bear in mind who you're replying to and what they're going through.

No. Let's not turn everything into a sugarcoated fantasy world because reality could hurt someone's feeling.

What's to be gained from hurting this person's feelings?

There are harsh enough realities in the world without us adding being assholes to the mix.

Re: Got laid off from Microsoft yesterday with 10.000 people

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Post by luckylion »

danpalmer wrote: post #38
luckylion wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Let's not turn everything into a sugarcoated fantasy world because reality could hurt someone's feeling.

What's to be gained from hurting this person's feelings? There are harsh enough realities in the world without us adding being assholes to the mix.

"I failed that exam because the professor thought 1 + 1 equals 2. What an idiot, 1 + 1 obviously equals 7.5"

What do you think that person will benefit more from? "You're wrong and the professor is right, you should work on your math skills", or "Wow, what an arrogant professor. You're totally right."?

Re: Got laid off from Microsoft yesterday with 10.000 people

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Post by danpalmer »

luckylion wrote: post #39
danpalmer wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's to be gained from hurting this person's feelings? There are harsh enough realities in the world without us adding being assholes to the mix.

"I failed that exam because the professor thought 1 + 1 equals 2. What an idiot, 1 + 1 obviously equals 7.5" What do you think that person will benefit more from? "You're wrong and the professor is right, you should work on your math skills", or "Wow, what an arrogant professor. You're totally right."?

Or, "I understand the frustration, failing exams sucks whatever the reason. In this case though, 1+1=2".

The delivery matters, even more so when the person is in a difficult position. Also in this case we don't _know_ that they are wrong, we only think it likely based on assumptions. It's probably more likely that OP said "random" out of frustration, and they've since removed it from their post.

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