I guess someone has to write this comment: > I take full responsibility for the decisions that led us here As usual, he says nothing more what the consequences for him are. It seems like all of the FAANGs have made severe strategic cockups when it comes to hiring lately. I wonder if it will affect their longterm attraction as employers.
Google to reduce workforce by 12k
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#363Well the factories are closing and the army's full I don't know what I'm going to do I've come to see in the land of the free There's only room for a chosen few. " -- Lars Frederiksen
I feel bad for everybody who spent the past 4 years going $200k into debt for a now worthless compsci degree. New grads, juniors and general employees who are not rock-stars, are in a miserable ride. As everybody casually writes it off to "over-hiring" you are forgetting the fact that there are 150k newly unemployed, a significant portion of whom will take many months, possibly a couple of years to find something. Meanwhile, all of those fresh graduates are now saying "Oh shit, I have to start making $2k/month student loan payments now, and don't have any income.
As an oldster observing what I believe my 4th tech downturn, I am currently advising people to go into the trades instead of becoming a software "engineer". The money can often be far better than tech, and there are actually more opportunities to advance than in tech.
If you consider inflation, offshoring, record profits for many companies who are still laying off, crypto crashing and rapid advances in AI-generated code, then you should be able to read the writing on the wall.
Remember a significant portion of these layoffs are coming from companies whose revenues and profits are increasing .. because they just don't need as many people to keep the investors and c-levels rich.
If you don't have at minimum 18 months worth of living expenses saved up when you get laid off, you could be in a world of hurt.
Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k
#364I need to see these "I take full responsibility" people actually punished. At the very least, this sentence needs to be removed from their mouths. Alphabet had 116 billion USD "cash on hand" at the end of September 2022. Even if the full cost of each of those 12K employees is 500K per year, that's "only" 6 billion dollars to keep those "great" people that they "love" working with around. Net income for that quarter w…
> I need to see these "I take full responsibility" people actually punished. At the very least, this sentence needs to be removed from their mouths. There's some infantile obsession with this phrase in every layoff thread. "I take full responsibility" is partly a polite way to say that they aren't blaming anyone else for what's happening, it partly means "I'm the one making this decision" and it's partly ceremony for…
That's imposing US cultural norms on the rest of the world.
Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k
#365I guess someone has to write this comment: > I take full responsibility for the decisions that led us here As usual, he says nothing more what the consequences for him are. It seems like all of the FAANGs have made severe strategic cockups when it comes to hiring lately. I wonder if it will affect their longterm attraction as employers.
> It seems like all of the FAANGs have made severe strategic cockups I’m becoming more and more convinced that they’re preparing for a global recession. I posed such an Ask HN a while ago, before the Microsoft layoffs, where the general takeaway was that there’s no indication for a recession. However, after the 10+12K layoffs by the giants, and constant news about smaller layoffs by smaller companies (in the 100s per…
Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k
#366I need to see these "I take full responsibility" people actually punished. At the very least, this sentence needs to be removed from their mouths. Alphabet had 116 billion USD "cash on hand" at the end of September 2022. Even if the full cost of each of those 12K employees is 500K per year, that's "only" 6 billion dollars to keep those "great" people that they "love" working with around. Net income for that quarter w…
A CEO taking responsibility for firing people always reminds me of Gavin Belson's speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u48vYSLvKNQ Did ever a journalist tried to ask how they took responsibility? Had they faced difficulties in their lives or careers or they couldn't concentrate on Succession's finale and had to rewind? Maybe taking responsibility actually means they did something very positive for the company with…
Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k
#367I guess someone has to write this comment: > I take full responsibility for the decisions that led us here As usual, he says nothing more what the consequences for him are. It seems like all of the FAANGs have made severe strategic cockups when it comes to hiring lately. I wonder if it will affect their longterm attraction as employers.
Re: Google to reduce workforce by 12k
#368I need to see these "I take full responsibility" people actually punished. At the very least, this sentence needs to be removed from their mouths. Alphabet had 116 billion USD "cash on hand" at the end of September 2022. Even if the full cost of each of those 12K employees is 500K per year, that's "only" 6 billion dollars to keep those "great" people that they "love" working with around. Net income for that quarter w…
what you’re describing is what if employees were all unionized and had more protections
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#369Question for those who got laid-off from tech recently (say since Aug last year): how hard did you find it to get another tech job? Would be interesting to get some anecdotal evidence to shed light on the following WSJ article which claims laid-off tech workers are finding it easy to get re-recruited: https://www.wsj.com/articles/laid-off-tech-workers-quickly-f... If the phenomena described in the WSJ article is true…
Not been laid off myself, but I'm still being absolutely hounded by recruiters. There are still a ton of tech jobs out there, at least in the UK.
Most local companies have started to demand employees back in office full time also. Which tells me that management in tech where I live ( nordics ) is generally bad and they just want to see bodies in the office, under the guise of teamwork of course, more than anything.
The international companies that have offices in multiple countries do not bother with mandatory in-office nonsense nearly as much. My guess is they are the ones picking up all available talent at the moment.
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#370Seen enough cycles of laying off about 10% [1] of your workforce to try and halt a share price slide and make investors happier to realise it's in the Howto CEO & Keep Your Job manual. QED, this announcement is almost entirely about share prices sliding in the tech sector since about the beginning of 2022. ChatGPT's impact on Google is unknown, but it is a fair bet that it will be larger [2]. [1] It's always around 1…
Despite the hype ChatGPT is not ready to replace search engines yet - no referencing and it literally makes up gibberish if it's not sure. At this point I don't see any advantage to Google rolling that out. GPT4, GPT5... different story maybe!