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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by garbagecoder »

subroutine wrote: post #138
anigbrowl wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like the federal government sends you a letter to tell you about it and what to do if you have an issue with it. While you raise a valid concern, I think it's a lot more likely to function as the basis of a class action suit - a sufficiently plausible and timely piece of evidence that would move a court to compel proper discovery.

That's actually exactly what they do. If you are a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, and the TSC determines that you are on the No Fly List, DHS TRIP will send you a letter informing you of your status on the No Fly List and providing the option to submit and receive additional information. https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-you-think-y...

No, stop. I want to believe this is bad. Stop commenting with facts.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by throwaway292939 »

lamontcg wrote: post #118
_yb2s wrote: post #9

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Am I missing something? It seems Maia didn't share the data at all, and only offers to if someone can demonstrate they will use it responsibly. Moreover, depending on the contents of the list, this likely offers proof of what is generally suspected, that the no fly list is a form of discrimination and authoritarian overreach, targeting people that haven't been convicted of a crime but are "suspected" due to race, rel…

> Maia didn't share the data at all You literally immediately falsified that assertion: > and only offers to if someone can demonstrate they will use it responsibly. And nobody ever lies of course.

> including sharing stolen sensitive data of normal people with whoever can plead a case

Wait, I thought Maia was offering to share who was on the no-fly list, not this stolen sensitive data this comment is claiming

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by stonepresto »

For reference, it/she [1] previously was named Tillie Kottman [2] and was indicted by the US in 2021 [3].

[1] https://maia.crimew.gay/

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_arson_crimew

[3] https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/swiss-hacker-indicted-c...

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by CSSer »

ConfuSomu wrote: post #213
CSSer wrote: post #209

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I wonder what the motivation was. Anarchism is mentioned elsewhere, so if I wonder if that’s a motivating factor here. At any rate, I appreciate that people are trying their best to be respectful. Personally, I’d also prefer to use “she” if that’s alright with her (it?). This becomes confusing quickly when we’re also trying to use it abstractly to refer to arguments and concepts.

it uses both pronouns: she/her and it/its, as written on her website[1]. [1]: https://maia.crimew.gay/

Sure, but that’s not what the page says. The Wikipedia article says that. The page says “it/she”. From what I’m familiar with, the order is usually “singular/plural” and when multiple are preferred I’m used to seeing it written as you notated it here as pairs in a list e.g. she/her, him/his, they/them, it/its, xe/xim, etc, in a list. I guess I can infer that’s the intention, however, which is fair enough.

But that really didn’t have much to do with what I was discussing. That was a separate argument about how we use “it” to refer to objects as a rule. Humans are objects, but we also generally prefer to think of them as objects of a higher order variety. In conversation, we take advantage of this to parse and interpret context more quickly. Choosing to do otherwise makes it more difficult to know if the “it” I just used in this sentence is Maia, some other object, or an abstract point I’m making in this discussion. Anyway, that’s why I prefer she/her.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by Larrikin »

ripdog wrote: post #217
CSSer wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what the motivation was. Anarchism is mentioned elsewhere, so if I wonder if that’s a motivating factor here. At any rate, I appreciate that people are trying their best to be respectful. Personally, I’d also prefer to use “she” if that’s alright with her (it?). This becomes confusing quickly when we’re also trying to use it abstractly to refer to arguments and concepts.

I totally understand wanting to be respectful, but respect goes both ways. She needs to respect the fact that her odd pronouns are literally breaking the English language for people who want to use them.

I personally think that the ultimate end game for pronouns in English will be creations of new ones with no connotations (so easy to apply like names) that get incorporated into the language or more likely an eventual move to a single pronoun that applies to everyone. Chinese, for example, only differentiates in written form so would be an easy adjustment. They is every high schoolers preferred choice in essays before English teachers complain.

I'm not sure how the under 20 is adjusting but in my groups of mid 20 to late 30 nobody is trying to disrespect anyone by not using preferred pronouns, but it just slips out from decades of usage, and people just end up replacing pronouns with the person's actual name after multiple times apologizing. The having to remember multiple names when meeting someone just doesn't seem tenable long term.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by [deleted] »

c1ccccc1 wrote: post #233

After seeing the title but before clicking on the article, I thought this would be about a legal hack rather than a security hole. More specifically, creating the minimum possible corporation that qualifies as an airline (so that you literally own an airline), and then saying to the government, "hey, we need the nofly list, we're an airline, see?". The actual hack sounds way easier, to be sure, but I still like my ve…

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by hyperhopper »

ripdog wrote: post #179
WatchDog wrote: post #98

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Seems to making it's prosecutors jobs really easy, by incriminating itself.

Perhaps this is just my autism speaking, but am I the only one who gets completely freaked out by sentences like the above? "It" refers to inanimate objects, things which can't have free will, do crimes, or be prosecuted. It's almost like you're talking about how a lawnmower decided to run a child over and then incriminate itself by boasting about it on social media. It makes no sense! I know she picked that pronoun…

This is the result of most of progressive society saying that it is socially acceptable for a person's preference of expression to mean more than grammar and clearness of communication.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by subroutine »

garbagecoder wrote: post #251
subroutine wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's actually exactly what they do. If you are a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, and the TSC determines that you are on the No Fly List, DHS TRIP will send you a letter informing you of your status on the No Fly List and providing the option to submit and receive additional information. https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-you-think-y...

No, stop. I want to believe this is bad. Stop commenting with facts.

Hah, indeed. As a side note, foreign nationals can likely determine their no fly list status from the Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctions programs list. I put together an excel workbook of that data (shared link below [0]); it contains OFAC's Specially Designated Nationals list (SDN), and non-SDN sanctions consolidated set. OFAC sanctions lists can be directly searched [1] and accessed via ftp [2]. In the excel workbook I shared below it's interesting to web search the entities listed as "CYBER" (see the sdn_cyber tab).

[0] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7QPqgvkNp42zejlBBxi...

[1] https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov

[2] ftp://ofacftp.treas.gov

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by a_t48 »

KyleBerezin wrote: post #33
a_t48 wrote: post #18

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No - please do not use "it" as a catch-all pronoun for an unknown person. "It" is generally a dehumanizing term for a transgender person - though a minority use it as a pronoun (in those cases, go for it).

To quote her home page "hello i am maia arson crimew (it/she)"

Yes, in this case it’s appropriate

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by zxexz »

vunicipna wrote: post #166
ceejayoz wrote: post #161

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She's already been indicted on federal charges for hacking. Not being allowed to fly wouldn't be the main issue if she found her way into an American airport or airliner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_arson_crimew

Reading that wiki page, it sounds like he's on his way to a long stint in prison, or worse. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets black-bagged now that he's attacking critical national infrastructure and encouraging others to do so.

Why do you keep saying "he"? It's pretty easy to respect people's pronouns...
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