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How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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This is clearly on the darker side of gray-hat. Hate to be preachy but anyone seeking to emulate this sort of attack-finding should consider their ethical obligations as a computer scientist and follow best practices for responsible disclosure. It appears this was completely ignored here, including sharing stolen sensitive data of normal people with whoever can plead a case.

Am I missing something? It seems Maia didn't share the data at all, and only offers to if someone can demonstrate they will use it responsibly. Moreover, depending on the contents of the list, this likely offers proof of what is generally suspected, that the no fly list is a form of discrimination and authoritarian overreach, targeting people that haven't been convicted of a crime but are "suspected" due to race, rel…

I get the impression that she's/it's doing this from a place of pain and desire to lash out, and "the system" is an easy target for her to fix onto. Not out of any sense of morality.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

#113

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I once saw someone who goes by “it” explain that it liked “it” because it has a sort of ungendered quality to it, whereas “they” is instead gender- neutral . It explained that we use “they” to refer to humans because we assume humans are gendered, and the implied gender is the quality that makes “they” (or for that matter “he” or “she”) implicitly refer to a human. But it rejects the notion humans must be gendered, o…

Grammatically, “they” and “it” are the same gender, they differ in number. Semantically, the difference in their singular use (prior to very recent evolutions) is that they was rarely used for specific known humams, and it was never uses for humans (but frequently for living things with sex and to whom grammatical gender corresponding to sex could also be used, in cases where the sex was unknown or unimportant, simil…

> Grammatically, “they” and “it” are the same gender, they differ in number.

English doesn't have grammatical gender so this statement seems questionable to me, but that's a nitpick.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Have a nice day.

People disagreeing with you is not censorship. We can all still see your comment.

I don't want to involve myself in this argument but I will say that I can not see their original post. It displays as just "[flagged]" for me. I don't know if that's the app I'm using or what, but I cannot see the post.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

#115
post #92

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CSV you say? Let's hope Bobby Droptable's cousin Bobby Double Quote Comma-Semicolon don't get in it...

Oh don’t. I spent several hours last week unfucking one of those.

Do tell! If you’ve recovered ;)

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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> if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender Hasn’t it always been the case that you could use “they” as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender? I seem to recall that “they” has been in use in that manner long before non-binary arguments were something I’d heard about.

I feel like I learned that the Chicago style guide, for example, embraced that only a handful of years ago.

Which is really just unfucking a mistake that language pedants invented for themselves in the 19th century.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

#117
post #109

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People disagreeing with you is not censorship. We can all still see your comment.

I don't want to involve myself in this argument but I will say that I can not see their original post. It displays as just "[flagged]" for me. I don't know if that's the app I'm using or what, but I cannot see the post.

Really? I see the "[flagged]", and the post, it's just slightly dimmer and I had to manually open it. I'm using no special extensions or anything, just a normal browser.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

#118
post #9

This is clearly on the darker side of gray-hat. Hate to be preachy but anyone seeking to emulate this sort of attack-finding should consider their ethical obligations as a computer scientist and follow best practices for responsible disclosure. It appears this was completely ignored here, including sharing stolen sensitive data of normal people with whoever can plead a case.

Am I missing something? It seems Maia didn't share the data at all, and only offers to if someone can demonstrate they will use it responsibly. Moreover, depending on the contents of the list, this likely offers proof of what is generally suspected, that the no fly list is a form of discrimination and authoritarian overreach, targeting people that haven't been convicted of a crime but are "suspected" due to race, rel…

> Maia didn't share the data at all

You literally immediately falsified that assertion:

> and only offers to if someone can demonstrate they will use it responsibly.

And nobody ever lies of course.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

#119
post #71

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I have found ways to almost always write and talk with gender neutral pronouns, without sounding too weird. After working with colleagues that use gender neutral pronouns, I find myself being careful not to assume any gender specific pronouns, which means in most cases just not using them.

As an Australian, we seemed to develop a culture of calling everyone 'mate' regardless of gender etc. Helps since I can't ever remember a persons name, even after they've said it directly to my face. I've got no issue with people wanting to use different pronouns, though usually I try to keep it neutral in conversation anyway. "They/their" is extremely easy to use without much thought.

Actually, also as an Australian:

Australia is a country where you call your mates "cunt" and call cunts "mate".

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

#120

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Top secret stazi lists should absolutely be shared. It's why we have 'we have right to know' laws, so the government can't just lock people up in a jail and disappear them.

If someone was on a no fly list and they wanted the general public to know, they could just put it out there themselves. No? This seems more likely to be used as a form of public shaming than a way to expose injustice.

It's not like the federal government sends you a letter to tell you about it and what to do if you have an issue with it. While you raise a valid concern, I think it's a lot more likely to function as the basis of a class action suit - a sufficiently plausible and timely piece of evidence that would move a court to compel proper discovery.
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