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Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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> "our ability to have an impact was often spread too thin" If that's the supposed reason, I call bullshit. Could've just reduced the number of charities.

And seriously, why should that matter; it's their customers who are selecting the charities, not Amazon.

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Twitch also ran into this issue recently where blindly allowing donations to any registered charity ended up being a bad look for them. It think it was autism speaks (autism / neurodivergence is a disease that needs to be cured and "not technically eugenics", not popular with gamers, go figure) and the lgb alliance (a boring trans-hate group).

> the lgb alliance (a boring trans-hate group) Can you direct me to any place where the LGB Alliance officially affirms “trans hate” as their core message? Seems like a remark that fails the barest minimum of common sense thresholds, in that it’s unclear to me how any such body could ever hope to remain a tax-deductible registered charity.

It’s just plain rhetoric at this point.

Anyone not actively supporting trans-rights these days are effectively labelled a “hater” or transphobic.

Essentially the trans-activist doing their best to gaslight the situation and get as much chilling effect as possible.

It’s dishonest, undemocratic and should be enough reason for most reasonable people to distrust them.

And yeah. I’m transphobic for posting this, obviously.

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> the lgb alliance (a boring trans-hate group) Can you direct me to any place where the LGB Alliance officially affirms “trans hate” as their core message? Seems like a remark that fails the barest minimum of common sense thresholds, in that it’s unclear to me how any such body could ever hope to remain a tax-deductible registered charity.

They obviously don't call it hate themselves. It is the opinion of certain trans groups that the positions taken by the organisation are based on hate. Of course hate in modern lingo just means disagreement, or failure to support the specific legislative agenda of a particular group. LGB Alliance states that it believes many cases of transition are actually a form of therapy to remove gay-ness. That a gay person is l…

> Of course hate in modern lingo just means disagreement, or failure to support the specific legislative agenda of a particular group.

Maybe that’s just me, but I think we should have higher expectations to the language used in discussions on HN.

If we agree this is about a policy-disagreement, then let’s use those words. Don’t use the word “hate” when no actual hate is involved.

It doesn’t help bring across any points, it doesn’t make you look better, it doesn’t seek constructive replies and it doesn’t help the conversation.

Enough with the “hate” already.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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They also never supported smile donations from the mobile app for no good reason, so it was always pretty clear to me that it was nothing more than a PR stunt/tax write off.

They did support it from the mobile app, but in a way that always outraged me. They would only allow you to use Smile on mobile if you agreed to turn on all notifications and let them spam you with ads. Turning off notifications -- either through their app or through iOS settings -- resulted in their disabling Smile for you.

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Price and convenience are probably better than average.

But that price and convenience is at the cost of quality and employee safety. And honestly not even worth it as a consumer even if you don’t care about the ethical issues. I’ve been severely disappointed with the quality of the average item on Amazon over the last few years, to the point that I have stopped using them completely. Even Walmart is better, which is saying a lot.

I haven’t had too many (any?) quality issues with Amazon I’m no shill - I don’t advocate for them since I’ve heard about plenty of quality issues, but I’ve never actually gotten the wrong product or a fake (unless the fake was so good it was equal to original… which is fine?).

What is everyone ordering that is subpar? Do people not just buy the same brands they’d buy at Walmart or target?

If you buy cheap stuff that was drop shipped off AliExpress, but reputable name brands from walmart… why not buy reputable brands from amazon?

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This may have a bigger impact than they think. Is Amazon good for the world? For some, the answer is no but still buy at Amazon as any sins are compensated by the the small donation to a NGO of choice.

I don't think the sins of Amazon are any worse than most other major U.S. retailers.

> I don't think the sins of Amazon are any worse than most other major U.S. retailers.

monopolies are bad, for consumers and for competitors. Even if you build your monopoly "fairly" by inventing a better mousetrap, putting the competition out of business is a reward that that is unfair and does not belong to the owner of the mousetrap. For example, Amazon could be split into 3 smaller Amazon mousetraps that compete with each other. Is that unfair to Jeff Bezos? No, he would own the same percentage of mousetrapping companies as he did before. What he would not own is a monopoly.

The sins of Amazon the monopolistic competitor are worse.

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Because it came under the field of vision of some dumbass MBA who decided that saving a few millions would be worth more and a sizeable contribution to their end of year bonus figure. Source: I'm a dumbass MBA admittee.

> Source: I'm a dumbass MBA admittee. Is the money that good?

Only if you cause untold misery to millions of charities

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So wait you searched by comment history rather than say Google: https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/tech/amazon-injury-data-study...

So wait, you lied about providing prior metrics. It's important to be looking at the same numbers when having a discussion about those numbers.

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