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Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

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Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#81
post #6

Has anything happened regarding IT staffing at the FAA recently? There was the NOTAM outage last week [1], and now this! [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34337158

Probably just more visibility on the matter. Once a major issue happens, things tend to get followed for a while. It can get bandwagoney

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#82

Unlike the NOTAM outage, a METAR outage will and should actually affect flights. Without weather at your destination it becomes impossible to know if it’s safe to land there. The forecasts (TAF) are actually used more in flight planning, but actual weather is very valuable while enroute, when not close enough to hear weather over the radio from the destination airport.

Are local weather conditions not generally available for all airports at all times?

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed?

You need me to Google Medicare budget and defense budget for you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States) >In 2020, US federal government spending on Medicare was $776.2 billion.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_De... >Annual budget US$721.5 billion (FY2020)[2] Hopefully, I won't need a citation that $776 > $721

Your source doesn't support your assertion:

> NASA's budget is now $0 though, since the military budget all went to Medicare with nothing left to spare for anything else. Along with the FAA and every other government department.

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#84
post #40

Unlike the NOTAM outage, a METAR outage will and should actually affect flights. Without weather at your destination it becomes impossible to know if it’s safe to land there. The forecasts (TAF) are actually used more in flight planning, but actual weather is very valuable while enroute, when not close enough to hear weather over the radio from the destination airport.

Unrelated to aviation, but I actually find METARs and TAFs are useful for hiking and skiing. I use the altimeter settings for my altimeter when hiking, and knowing the altitude of cloud layers is useful to know what the visibility will be like on the mountain (you have to do a bit of math with the airport elevation and the mountain’s elevation, but hey—it works!).

I used METAR for running, or rather to say which days I'm allowed to not run.

I noticed that when the day was long, and I was feeling tired and lazy it was a lot easier to find some excuse why not to run that day. This excuse was often the weather. But on the other hand I didn't want to say no matter the weather I must run, because that is obviously excessive. So I made up a simple "algorithm" to decide if the weather fits the minimums, and if it did I must go and run. And I choose to base it on the measurements from the METAR of the local airport.

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#85
post #30

And then thousands of pilots checked Weather Underground's sister site, Weather Overground...

Never understood why WU went after miners first.

a VC told them to use a bottom-up TAM, so they started at the bottom and now they're here

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#86

Unlike the NOTAM outage, a METAR outage will and should actually affect flights. Without weather at your destination it becomes impossible to know if it’s safe to land there. The forecasts (TAF) are actually used more in flight planning, but actual weather is very valuable while enroute, when not close enough to hear weather over the radio from the destination airport.

Err. NOTAM should also have effected flights. Please don't downplay the safety of airspace.

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#87
post #3

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I'm sorry, but "looking out the window" has been obsolete for thousands of years. What aviators really need to use is the Weather Rock [1] and its associated documentation. If the rock is wet, it's raining. If the rock is swinging, the wind is blowing. If the rock casts a shadow, the sun is shining. If the rock does not cast a shadow and is not wet, the sky is cloudy. If the rock is difficult to see, it is foggy. If…

I've never heard of this, and its brilliantly hilarious! TIL about the weather rock! :-)

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#89
post #48
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the conservative playbook. Cut funding until the entity can't run properly, then yell JEEZ GUYS YOU REALLY SUCK wHY DON'T WE SHUT YOU DOWN The previous president significantly cut the FAA's budget, maybe we're just seeing now how that affects us in the long term

I'm not a conversative. Presidents don't pass budgets. FAA funding has increased, not decreased. I can criticize my government all I want. You're turning this into a political party thing when it's a government service failure.

It's the folks that hitch themselves to a political party narrative that are the most dangerous, because they can't decouple when the party fails them repeatedly. They start to make excuses, moving the goal posts, and white washing obvious corruption. They become so enamored in it, that they find people on the internet to harass, just so they can feel big and important for putting them in there place.

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

#90
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a conversative. Presidents don't pass budgets. FAA funding has increased, not decreased. I can criticize my government all I want. You're turning this into a political party thing when it's a government service failure.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/whi... Relevant quote: "President Trump’s support for a plan to lop more than 30,000 Federal Aviation Administration workers from the federal payroll gives fresh momentum to an effort that stalled in Congress last year. The proposal is included in Trump’s 2018 budget, which would cut funding for the Transportation Department by 13 percent."

To be fair, I think that proposal died when it got to Congress.
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