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The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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post #7

Talking about big chains coming and going, I hope we’ve hit “Peak Pret”. there seems to be one every 200m in London now, it’s getting stupid

When did Pret's fayre become so banal? I walk into one every month or so to see if they have anything interesting. They haven't for years.

Same for me as M&S - it seems like they've foregone variety and interest to have the same bleak sandwich range, but duplicated across this-free or that-free.

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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> Yet many British chains have had zero impact on culture ... There are two big exceptions to this rule: Wagamama and PizzaExpress. Can't believe they've forgotten about Nando's! Easily the most culturally significant restaurant chain in the UK, from grime music to the ubiquitous "cheeky nando's" phraseology

Given your nickname here, you might be conflating London and the South East with the UK generally. Signed, 'Haringey' :)

Not really.

Listen to county cricketers talking about travelling. Nan os get mentioned by many at least in the Midlands.

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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> Yet many British chains have had zero impact on culture ... There are two big exceptions to this rule: Wagamama and PizzaExpress. Can't believe they've forgotten about Nando's! Easily the most culturally significant restaurant chain in the UK, from grime music to the ubiquitous "cheeky nando's" phraseology

Given your nickname here, you might be conflating London and the South East with the UK generally. Signed, 'Haringey' :)

South West here and Nando's is very much culturally important.

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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I loved the PizzaExpress in Oxford in the early 90s. One of very few reasonable places to eat in that town.

Yes. In Cambridge at the same time, the chains were Garfunkels, Pizzaland, Pizza Hut, and PizzaExpress. PizzaExpress (particularly "7a") was head and shoulders above the rest, though Pizzaland's endless shower of half-price vouchers admittedly got people through the door. I don't think anyone ever went to Garfunkels unless the parents were down.

There were a handful of enjoyable local restaurants/cafes that were just one step above a greasy spoon, though.

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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> Yet many British chains have had zero impact on culture ... There are two big exceptions to this rule: Wagamama and PizzaExpress. Can't believe they've forgotten about Nando's! Easily the most culturally significant restaurant chain in the UK, from grime music to the ubiquitous "cheeky nando's" phraseology

Wagamama and Nando's are arguably the only two big casual dining chains that people actually enjoy eating at. All the others are pretty unpopular (and rightly so, the food is often terrible): Pizza Express, Frankie and Benny's, Pizza Hut, Chiquito...

Nando's social media and culture presence is impressive for a restaurant chain of its size.

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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Re: the forgettability of other chain restaurants in the UK, note that most are "sockpuppet" brands for one of two big groups: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual_Dining_Group or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchells_%26_Butlers

I've not been to Pizza Express in years, but as a student I was a big fan of this one: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g186225-d73734... with neoclassical frontage and mirrored dining room, originally built for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Pitt_Club

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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post #4

Dishoom is one of the experiences I miss most having moved away from the UK. It took this article to make me realise I feel the same about Pizza Express. At least I still have Ippudo, which I'd fit into the same mental space somehow.

I too love the food at Dishoom, but they're lack of table bookings and food delivery makes things difficult.

Every time I want to go there on a Friday/Saturday evening there's always a massive queue outside.

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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> Yet many British chains have had zero impact on culture ... There are two big exceptions to this rule: Wagamama and PizzaExpress. Can't believe they've forgotten about Nando's! Easily the most culturally significant restaurant chain in the UK, from grime music to the ubiquitous "cheeky nando's" phraseology

Wagamama and Nando's are arguably the only two big casual dining chains that people actually enjoy eating at. All the others are pretty unpopular (and rightly so, the food is often terrible): Pizza Express, Frankie and Benny's, Pizza Hut, Chiquito... Nando's social media and culture presence is impressive for a restaurant chain of its size.

You can't put Pizza Express in the same category as Pizza Hut!?

And as a data-point I enjoy Pizza Express - and I've had "proper" pizza to compare it to.

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

#29

> Yet many British chains have had zero impact on culture ... There are two big exceptions to this rule: Wagamama and PizzaExpress. Can't believe they've forgotten about Nando's! Easily the most culturally significant restaurant chain in the UK, from grime music to the ubiquitous "cheeky nando's" phraseology

Nando's isn't a British chain though.

It's a cornerstone of the British high-street. We've embraced it and adopted it as ours.

If I went to a town and they didn't have a Nando's I'd treat the place with suspicion.

Re: The Radical Design of PizzaExpress

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post #26

Re: the forgettability of other chain restaurants in the UK, note that most are "sockpuppet" brands for one of two big groups: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual_Dining_Group or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchells_%26_Butlers I've not been to Pizza Express in years, but as a student I was a big fan of this one: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g186225-d73734... with neoclassical frontage and mirror…

You've missed out The Restaurant Group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Restaurant_Group

Which once huge, now looks like is almost entirely propped up by Wagamama's.

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