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Re: Facebook Container Extension

#71

Post by sirsinsalot »

charcircuit wrote: post #62
black_puppydog wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would seem its again the interest of one of the biggest contributors to the open source code base of chromium...

For discussion about it. https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/IZ... In response to asking about supporting multiple profiles between different tabs. >Extraordinarily difficult. I would expect person-years of effort for this, as the link between profile and window is deeply ingrained throughout the code. Chrome doesn't support containers because it would take a big investment that no one is curren…

I am doubtful about the person-years of effort. It's an indirection.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#72

Post by lopis »

illusiveman wrote: post #61

I'm not sure why this is even on the front-page now, given that it's been released for many years already, but in any case, here's my two cents about this topic: Containers are a misunderstood technology. People think about them as a privacy feature, but that's far from real. The only benefit of containers is the ability to have different sessions of the same service in the same windows/profile. That's it. A good use…

It is a privacy feature, specially when paired with Cookie Auto Delete. I have CAD setup to always delete cookies when I close all tabs of a website. But I can add exceptions per website and per container. So I have a Google container that is the only place where I allow Google to leave cookies on my browser. I do the same for a several other websites. Sure, Google can always track you somehow, like IP address, but it's not as easy to track you around the Internet when you always use a fresh new session on each tab.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#73

Post by _flux »

ranting-moth wrote: post #67
cypherpunks01 wrote: post #6

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These extensions are killer, and are the primary reason I use Firefox. No other browsers have similar functionality at all that I've found. For me, it's the best setup I've found in terms of cookie/session management. By default, I do want every new tab I open to come with a clean slate of no cookies, local storage, SQLite, or whatever other storage/tracking mechanisms are invented. If I need to open up a Google serv…

> I do want every new tab I open to come with a clean slate I'd like that too, how can you do that? I've been using Firefox containers for a while. When I open a new tab it opens in the default non-container which carries it's own storage cesspit.

You need to use Temporary Container's shortcut to open the tab, I think extensions cannot override builtin ones.. (And you need Temporary Containers in the first place: that's the bit that creates fresh new containers.)

For me the shortcut is alt C.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#74

Post by vianneychevalie »

hysan wrote: post #56
aeturnum wrote: post #33

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Oh really? I find them excellent. I don't know how you're trying to use them - but I have a "work" window, which opens new containers in the "work" container (which has all my work accounts). It's a great way to keep accounts separate and it's one of my favorite parts of Firefox.

The last time I tried, which was a while back, two things that bothered me: - there was no way to make CMD/CTRL+T open a new tab in the same container context as the one you were currently in. To me, this seems like an obvious UX flaw. If you’re browsing in a container, the actions you’re doing should keep you in that container unless you consciously want to switch. - building on that, there was no option to right cl…

I use Alt+F+B+Down arrow to browse my containers when opening a new tab. For the most frequent ones, I use Ctrl+Maj+1/2/3/4, etc., I know which ones they are.

Those shortcuts are by default, I haven't had to tweak anything, and although they're not standard browser shortcuts, I prefer that option to a remapping of standards.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#75

Post by sureglymop »

alwayslikethis wrote: post #8
_fat_santa wrote: post #3

Related: Multi Account Containers - Same thing as the facebook container but more generi - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... Temporary Containers - Same container concept but you can create and destroy them on the fly - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

Temporary containers are the final solution to cookie based tracking, just like how forwarding services like Simplelogin (not affiliated) is the final solution to email spam. They have very similar underlying principles: reduce exposure by reducing the power you grant and starting afresh every time to avoid information leakage. With temporary containers, only whitelisted sites can have persistent storage and they are…

Temporary containers are great but sometimes there are problems with logins or payments where a sote can't redirect back to where it has to. This leads me to temporarily turn off temporary containers which kind of defeats the whole point.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#76

Post by bayindirh »

sirsinsalot wrote: post #71
charcircuit wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For discussion about it. https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/IZ... In response to asking about supporting multiple profiles between different tabs. >Extraordinarily difficult. I would expect person-years of effort for this, as the link between profile and window is deeply ingrained throughout the code. Chrome doesn't support containers because it would take a big investment that no one is curren…

I am doubtful about the person-years of effort. It's an indirection.

Or the code is specially laid out that way over the years to make this a person-years effort.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#77

Post by shrikant »

hysan wrote: post #56
aeturnum wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh really? I find them excellent. I don't know how you're trying to use them - but I have a "work" window, which opens new containers in the "work" container (which has all my work accounts). It's a great way to keep accounts separate and it's one of my favorite parts of Firefox.

The last time I tried, which was a while back, two things that bothered me: - there was no way to make CMD/CTRL+T open a new tab in the same container context as the one you were currently in. To me, this seems like an obvious UX flaw. If you’re browsing in a container, the actions you’re doing should keep you in that container unless you consciously want to switch. - building on that, there was no option to right cl…

> - there was no way to make CMD/CTRL+T open a new tab in the same container context as the one you were currently in. To me, this seems like an obvious UX flaw. If you’re browsing in a container, the actions you’re doing should keep you in that container unless you consciously want to switch.

There's still no quick, default shortcut for this, but you can use this add-on to give you that functionality: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/easy-containe...

FWIW, the main add-on (Multi Account Containers) lets you do Cmd + Shift + {number} to open a new tab in a specific container -- but I admit that's still some cognitive overhead compared to just doing something like Cmd + Opt + T to open a tab in the same container as your current tab.

> - building on that, there was no option to right click and open a link in a different container.

This is absolutely in the main add-on now, and I use it regularly!

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#78

Post by Oxodao »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #63
college_physics wrote: post #50

How about a firefox extension that automatically clicks 'i dont want any non-essential cookies' upon visiting a site?

Here you go: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-a...

Not the same:

> When it's needed for the website to work properly, it will automatically accept the cookie policy for you (sometimes it will accept all and sometimes only necessary cookie categories, depending on what's easier to do)

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#79

Post by sirsinsalot »

bayindirh wrote: post #76
sirsinsalot wrote: post #71

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I am doubtful about the person-years of effort. It's an indirection.

Or the code is specially laid out that way over the years to make this a person-years effort.

Come on, no software project is ran with that level or "what if" foresight.

I'll go with incompetence over conspiracy.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

#80

Post by bayindirh »

sirsinsalot wrote: post #79
bayindirh wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or the code is specially laid out that way over the years to make this a person-years effort.

Come on, no software project is ran with that level or "what if" foresight. I'll go with incompetence over conspiracy.

No "what-if" is needed to pull of that kind of thing. As an advertisement company, just never prioritize this separation, and do not discourage this "integration" in PRs.

You're done. Build while fresh.

P.S.: Microsoft is actively rigging its software, lastly VS-Code just for these things, but it's another can of worms I have no desire to open again.

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