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Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

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Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

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Stop calling everything a robot while you are at it. Once marketing folk get their paws on terms they can lose or expand their meaning. It's just the way it is.

"Drone" is another one that angered many at first. Articles were written, angry comments posted. "It's not a drone!".

But the horse bolted and now everyone calls them drones, including the manufacturers of consumer quadcopters. The name "quadcopter" is so clunky it had no chance against the zippy, effortless "drone".

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

#62

AI should be synonymous with machine sentience IMHO - anything less is corporate advertising.

The problem is we nerds can't change what society chooses to bulk reference as AI. Language is as much momentum as pertinence.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the challenges faced by ChatGPT was in seeing it produce conversational-style output instead of simply the most common words that it saw. I'm not sure your definition really clears up how reasoning or thinking differ from "basic" statistical processes. Granted, perhaps it is not explainable. If it were we would understand it well enough to replicate it.

> One of the challenges faced by ChatGPT was in seeing it produce conversational-style output instead of simply the most common words that it saw. Do you have a source for that? I've implemented GPT from scratch and I don't see anywhere that doesn't just take the current output + input as attention and produces the next word. The loss being if it correctly guessed what would be the next word according to context and…

ChatGPT was also trained with reinforcement learning to produce outputs human raters preferred

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

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AI should be synonymous with machine sentience IMHO - anything less is corporate advertising.

Calling it “AI” is important for those who run it. Call it “ML” and the connotation is “software monetizing publicly shared data at scale without consent”, call it “AI” and the connotation is “but you wouldn’t stop a human learning on what is public would you”. I can’t believe how many people are falling for this.

so it's like "cyber" and "nucular"

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see people saying this all over the internet, but for the entire history of AI, Machine Learning has either been the only, or the most effective method by far of solving actual problems. Everyone who thinks otherwise should read this. http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html

Ultimately the only thing that holds true about AI is Tesler's Theorem: Artificial intelligence is whatever hasn't been done yet Machine Learning is only still artificial intelligence because we haven't figured it out. Ultimately ML is just fancy control theory. Once the field is sufficiently explored, it will slowly stop being AI and will start being treated as a subset of control theory instead. I doubt it'll happe…

Indeed. Its surprising how quickly people are getting used to GPT's capabilities and dismissing it even. It wasn't that long ago that people were saying that making casual conversation, making an original joke or novel painting would be among the last things a computer would be able to do. Or that it would never happen.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

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post #54

> Moreover, he emphasizes, human happiness should not be an afterthought when developing technology. And what we have in practice is: the biggest usage of AI in the wild is to plagiarize art and artists are super unhappy about that, to the point of coming up with lawsuits and whatnot. What I think happens next is: actual general intelligence emerges accidentally somewhere between the lines in some of those deep learn…

This has already happened, thanks to the parasite of capitalism.

When we say things like "the top 1% captured 2/3 of the world's wealth gains over the past 3 years" it also implies the fungibility of the 99% is growing, and the core root cause is worldscale automation and AI. Their ability to accumulate wealth relies less and less on human labor and more on capturing knowledge capital and IP.

Even the 1% is itself a Pareto curve, with the top .1% accumulating about 1/3 of wealth gains in the past decade.

This extremely tiny group pf humans is today's "AGI", they literally control the world.

Certainly real AGI will be even more proficient at exploiting the same capitalist loopholes they have to enter their ranks.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

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I've always wished we had a common phrase like 'synthetic intelligence'. People are always saying certain systems lack the complexity to be considered artificial intelligence, but to me artificial intelligence is anything that is mimicking intelligence, like AI in a game or rudimentary chat bots. Synthetic Intelligence would be more of what people consider an AI now. It has intelligence, but was created. I think the word 'artificial' is no longer accurate, it implies that it seems like, but is not intelligent. Simple animals are often attributed intelligence, I see no reason that a complicated program can't reach that same level.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says (2021)

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Over the past few weeks, I have adopted a practice of always referring to ML-based generators—things like Stable Diffusion, ChatGPT, etc—as ML (and often as "ML programs" or "software" in some form) and not AI, not because I don't think ML is a subfield of the broader field of AI, but because of all the absolutely ridiculous hype I've seen from people who clearly see "AI" and think that means it's genuinely sapient.

As people with genuine technical knowledge and expertise, I think we have a responsibility to at least try to put a damper on that kind of breathless hyperbole, and being clearer about how we refer to these programs is one simple way we can do so.

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