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Explore Wikipedia's New Look
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#182Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look
#183My initial take: I actually like this a lot. The body text is narrower which makes for easier reading. The sidebar with an updating highlight of current place in document is really nice too. I don't mind the "wasted space": Wikipedia is primarily about reading, and any well typeset book or web page should have generous margins so the line length is not too long.
Why not just have multiple columns of text instead of half a screen of emptyness and stuff users rarely interact with? You could arrange the different wiki sections to be side by side.. in a dynamic responsive way depending on device/screen size
I find multicolumn on digital screens especially in the browser to seem very clunky.
And with an arbitrary article length, multicol would require pagination, right?
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#184I don't know if they're rolling it out in phases or what, but the new design seems to work only on some articles.
As of right now (UTC 4:50 am):
- Hanlon's Razor (new design) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
- Dunning-Kruger effect (old design) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look
#185I don't know if they're rolling it out in phases or what, but the new design seems to work only on some articles. As of right now (UTC 4:50 am): - Hanlon's Razor (new design) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor - Dunning-Kruger effect (old design) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
both show the old design to me so seems more like some servers in a group have the new design elements and some have the old?
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Lots of Wikipedia articles have become well-cited but that façade begins to break down as we dive into more niche topics. A lot of the time they're just making the citation up. Wikipedia's page on French toast says this: > The earliest known reference to French toast is in the Apicius, a collection of Latin recipes dating to the 1st century CE, where it is described as simply aliter dulcia 'another sweet dish.'[8]…
You can fix these errors if you want to. Anyone can edit Wikipedia.
How would I fix the errors? I know Wikipedia is lying to me. I can delete the information, which is pretty likely to get reverted. But I can't replace it with correct information; I have no idea when the idea of bread fried in eggs is first documented, and I have no idea whether or not the stock character of Chen Shimei is based on a historical person. For all I know Wikipedia is lying about the publication date of the story they cite. It's more likely they're lying about the character being based on a historical person, or the time when that person lived, but I can't tell, because there's no reference to anything I could look up.
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#187> Research has shown that limiting the width of longform text leads to a more comfortable reading experience, and better retention of the content itself. Is this actually true? I'm curious if anybody has sources for this and if it's a common UX practice. I tend to use wider windows than traditional 8:9 half-screens and this max-width practice drives me nuts.
I guess it depends on the person. I'm happy to accept that I'm strange, but I'd much rather read lines that mostly fill my screen with normal margins on each side than short lines in a long narrow column surrounded by an ocean of empty whitespace. I can't be the only one who feels this way. I have yet to buy a book where 90% of each page is blank and there's just a tiny column of words down the middle of the page.
I don't normally read books that are anywhere near as large as a 27" monitor, and when I do they often have pretty massive margins (or "whitespace").
I mean seriously, a 27" diagonal monitor is 24"x17". Do you routinely read on 12"x17" paper with near zero margin?
Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look
#188My initial take: I actually like this a lot. The body text is narrower which makes for easier reading. The sidebar with an updating highlight of current place in document is really nice too. I don't mind the "wasted space": Wikipedia is primarily about reading, and any well typeset book or web page should have generous margins so the line length is not too long.
I've been using Redirector for the last few years to redirect Wikipedia links to the mobile site because the interface is so much cleaner and the content so much easier to read. I'm super excited about this change because I can finally get rid of that browser extension.
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#189Have been using this new theme since beta. I love the much cleaner look more than the previous one. One can always tune the CSS yourself at the user's preference near the theme selector. The only thing I need to adjust to my liking is to limit the line width: main#content { max-width: 40em; } For those who hate it: you will always have the option to switch back to the old theme. I really hope any website could be as…
>I really hope any website could be as flexible as Wikipedia to allow users to write their own CSS.
Once upon a time, there was an initiative for websites to add a unique CSS ID to the tag so users could customize them with user stylesheets.
For example: for this website, and then users can apply CSS rules as they see fit via the user stylesheet.
Sadly, the initiative never took off and most browsers nowadays don't even know what a user stylesheet is.
Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look
#190Have been using this new theme since beta. I love the much cleaner look more than the previous one. One can always tune the CSS yourself at the user's preference near the theme selector. The only thing I need to adjust to my liking is to limit the line width: main#content { max-width: 40em; } For those who hate it: you will always have the option to switch back to the old theme. I really hope any website could be as…
> you will always have the option to switch back to the old theme. The only issue is, you need to log in to do this. I don't want to have to log in to a website that I read, and never edit, to get rid of the giant distracting table of contents.
I'm upvoting this to counteract the downvotes.
Basic customizations should never be blocked behind an accountgate.