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Salesforce, but for Dating

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Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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post #17

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> Half a bit of data I’ve never heard that idea before and I love it.

Half a bit... yeah. I read a good description of a bit (I think in The Information by James Gleick) as "a yes or no answer to a single unambiguous question. I'm misremembering the quote but that's close enough. So half a bit would be like hearing "Umm..." in response to that same question?

I think "Umm..." would be zero bits, and half a bit would be more like "Probably"/"Probably not"

Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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I am sure it is not a parody. I have witnessed co-workers getting professional photographs and using spreadsheets to track dates/matches, all to carefully optimize their dating app success. It reminds me of the early 2000s "pick up artist" stuff, I had a few friends who read the books and would actively hit on women anytime we went out. It was horrible haha. As for the maker of this app, if it fills a need and gets w…

>It reminds me of the early 2000s "pick up artist" stuff, I had a few friends who read the books and would actively hit on women anytime we went out. It was horrible haha. In the early 2000s only "professionals" used CAD. Now (almost) everyone with a 3d printer or a shed they want to build uses CAD. It's trickled down. The pickup artists are on the bleeding edge of the "craft" if you can call it that. It shouldn't be…

> The pickup artists are on the bleeding edge of the "craft" if you can call it that.

A lot of people are picking up on how PUA types are actually annoying grifters who think bullying women is flirting, or even that some forms of PUA are actually blatantly sociopathic.

A lot of them are pretending like they have some special insight beyond the fact that they a.) are conventionally mostly attractive b.) are at least a tiny bit charismatic c.) had enough self-confidence to try doing literally anything at all.

I hate having to deal with the aftermath of endless men approaching me at random who think "being an asshole" is flirting. It's so annoying.

Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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post #66

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There have been several iterations of this sort of idea — a personal CRM — and the main issue I have is they should automatically scan my emails, texts and chats to figure out my friends and suggest that I reach out. Also, want it to be 100% local and privacy first.

> should automatically scan my emails, texts and chats Great, easy to integrate one service with the APIs of a bunch of others! > Also, want it to be 100% local and privacy first. ...but in combination? Never going to happen. Ask yourself: who's signing up for the API keys to enable the client-side service to talk to all these services? Is it the end-user, or is it this software's developer? If it's the software's de…

Can’t it just scan the client? For email at least, I feel it can just read your inbox or whatever and store the results of the analysis locally.

You were very active with this friend for n years and it dropped off. Drop them a line.

Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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post #80

A good left-brained friend of mine was dating heavily in the late 2000s as he was in "wife finding mode". He had a spreadsheet -- called girls.xls -- where he kept track of important details about each woman he went on a date with. We were sitting around musing about how hard it must be to keep track of the key details given all the dates he was going on, and he let drop that he had a spreadsheet. He never showed it…

Is he still married ?

Yep! Happily, with kids.

Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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post #129

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I was probably 24 years old before I realized dating multiple people was even a thing. I figured you talked to and dated a person until you either decided you weren't having a good time or you married them.

Note that it's not universally true around the world. In the US, yes. If you do this in the UK, it will result in an evening where you end up ordering a taxi and slipping out the back door while two women are pulling each other's hair extensions out outside a pub and trying to beat the opponent with a shoe. Yes this actually happened to me.

I think it depends on expectations. I can't imagine how anybody raised in the west would expect exclusivity a) after a couple of dates and b) without a conversation.

Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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>It reminds me of the early 2000s "pick up artist" stuff, I had a few friends who read the books and would actively hit on women anytime we went out. It was horrible haha. In the early 2000s only "professionals" used CAD. Now (almost) everyone with a 3d printer or a shed they want to build uses CAD. It's trickled down. The pickup artists are on the bleeding edge of the "craft" if you can call it that. It shouldn't be…

> The pickup artists are on the bleeding edge of the "craft" if you can call it that. A lot of people are picking up on how PUA types are actually annoying grifters who think bullying women is flirting, or even that some forms of PUA are actually blatantly sociopathic. A lot of them are pretending like they have some special insight beyond the fact that they a.) are conventionally mostly attractive b.) are at least a…

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Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

#217
post #25

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Lots of attempts over the years at this personal crm problem space but no success to date. I did one on Facebook platform in 2008-09 called Socialfly, our tagline was ‘be twice the friend in half the time’. Problem is there’s a lot of input and upkeep which limits appeal, the most important social data sources (text & phone) are not accessible via api, its a personal tool that you don’t necessarily want to tell other…

Don’t TikTok and Instagram access the phone book and hence numbers?

Numbers yes, when you last contacted no. Core value prop of personal CRM is ease of keeping up w/ people, which means smarts of reprioritizing people based on several factors sort of like a personal assistant would, which means system should know when you last spoke/texted/emailed/etc. Ideally it'd even have ease of access to transcripts (chat/email logs) so you could jog your memory.

The goal is to avoid just a dumb timer saying 'its been 4 weeks, why don't you chat with X'. That's how Socialfly worked, and it was pretty high friction in practical use.

Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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I laughed when I read this but then I thought more and... wouldn't that be fun? Like, if it's their hobby and they're good at it, why would the date be bad? Gardeners like their plants to grow big and healthy. Fishkeepers obsess over the health of their tanks. Musicians want to play more challenging music with better bandmates for bigger audiences on higher profile stages. So if you were on the receiving end of a dat…

Lol No. It'd be min/maxed to fuck and then dump. How naive are you. > dating hobbyist Also, your use of hobbyist is so close to being on par ( https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hobbyist ).

Gah, I'm glad I don't live in your head.

I have never heard that definition of "hobbyist" before. I don't see how it's even remotely related to what I wrote. But whatever. Get some rest, maybe tomorrow will be a better day for you.

Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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Half a bit... yeah. I read a good description of a bit (I think in The Information by James Gleick) as "a yes or no answer to a single unambiguous question. I'm misremembering the quote but that's close enough. So half a bit would be like hearing "Umm..." in response to that same question?

I think "Umm..." would be zero bits, and half a bit would be more like "Probably"/"Probably not"

"Probably" is more than one bit, not less, no? It conveys both uncertainty and an opinion on the answer.

"Is this tree deciduous?" "Yes" - one bit

"Is this tree evergreen?" "Probably" - one bit (they don't know), another bit (their guess)

But I'm way off any formal understanding of this, and it can be rigorously defined.

Meta comment: "half a bit" was clearly a joke, and so was my response; now I'm taking your reply at face value and debating it seriously, while admitting that I haven't got anything close to firm enough ground under me to actually debate it :)

Re: Salesforce, but for Dating

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Still not entirely certain this isn't just a really impressive parody, but for my sanity I am hoping it is. I think this says a lot about the "attention economy" way all the various dating and social apps take up your time to use them, and how we've digitized the process so much that people unironically see the appeal of a CRM system for managing contacts. Classic case of "new tech to solve the problems of all the ot…

I am sure it is not a parody. I have witnessed co-workers getting professional photographs and using spreadsheets to track dates/matches, all to carefully optimize their dating app success. It reminds me of the early 2000s "pick up artist" stuff, I had a few friends who read the books and would actively hit on women anytime we went out. It was horrible haha. As for the maker of this app, if it fills a need and gets w…

I’ve done that spreadsheet thing for a year or so, around 15 years ago when I just had started using online dating sites (which where different back then, and non-algorithmic)
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