Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many thinks traumas in adult life are linked to childhood addition.
Can childhood substraction also be the cause ? /s I'm guessing both of you mean addiction?
Maybe the problem is there is so much division these days.
Loneliness is a measure of self-understanding
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#12I'm kind of already not on board with this based on definition 1; but even if we redefined the word "loneliness" to fit those terms, the remainder of the argument feels more like wordplay than insight, to be honest.
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#13I really like the thrust of this argument (loneliness is about not being understood) but I think the solution is off the mark...
> So it’s your task to make others understand you
There is another task that is just as important. You need to find people who are capable of understanding you. It may sound like a cart/horse issue where you need to understand enough about yourself to find people who are receptive. That my be true to a degree. But no amount of self-understanding is going to change how people respond to you if who you are is not comprehensible to those people.
As an example, imagine you are a straight man with many close friends who have known you for a long time. And at some point, you begin to grapple with the idea that you're not straight, but maybe bisexual. It is possible that some of your old straight friends will have the capacity to listen and understand and respond in ways that make you feel known. But it's not necessarily likely. And if those are the only people you are close to, no amount of self-knowledge is going to change their capacity to make you feel seen and heard.
You're gonna need some new friends.
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#14I really like the thrust of this argument (loneliness is about not being understood) but I think the solution is off the mark... > So it’s your task to make others understand you There is another task that is just as important. You need to find people who are capable of understanding you . It may sound like a cart/horse issue where you need to understand enough about yourself to find people who are receptive. That my…
In my case, humor is effective way to know if others understand u or not. You make humor (that you find it's a humor), but not all others understand it a humor.
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#16I'm curious what do you think about this relationship between loneliness and self-understanding?
I don't really agree that being able to effectively explain yourself to others is either necessary or sufficient to cure loneliness. Take my relationship with my kids, for example. I don't feel lonely when I am with them, and I would not say our relationship is predicated on me being to explain myself to them or their understanding me.
Being able to explain/express yourself is a nice skill to have, and it may help certain people who are struggling to maintain relationships, though.
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#18This notion reduces the totality of human interaction to language. Do you think proto-huminoids who hadn't developed complex language felt lonely because they lacked an ability to explain themselves?
If I become a duller and less complicated person, will I be able to more easily explain myself, and therefore less lonely? Absurd.
There are many ways to bond with others that are non-verbal.
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#19Reminded of Russell’s teapot.
If others think I have misunderstood myself, the burden of proof lies on them to prove the existence of such a misunderstanding.
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#20Who or what am I is the ultimate spiritual question (i.e, self-understanding). When you understand that loneliness wouldn't even be a concern, because that is an issue for who?