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Re: Apple HomePod 2nd Generation

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The last HomePods sounded great, but it’s hard for me to imagine them taking off without fixing Siri. Siri is still remarkably dumb compared to Alexa and certainly when compared to GPT3.5 tools. If you ask Siri “What is 220°C in F” it will correctly hear the words you’re saying, then convert 220F to C. Because of this, I never use Siri outside of contexts I’m sure Apple has tested thoroughly (e.g. read my last text).

Worked perfectly for me on my iPhone.

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I love my OG HomePods that I got on close-out at Best Buy, but both of them have given me near constant connection issues over the last few months -- excited to have something to replace them with. I much prefer the appearance of the Big HomePod over the (not-really) equivalent Sonos One.

I’ve got two first gen HomePods here which died slightly out of warranty, and AppleCare wanted $300 a piece just to take a look at them. Makes me quite gunshy about spending yet another $300 on a product which may not last more than 2-3 years.

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I live with my partner and I’m debating whether a homepod or two minis is the correct choice for our 3 room apartment. Seems cool you can have a mini in each room and just walk around and there’s music all over. But also seems a bit like a hastle having to link/unlink them depending whos where. My airpods already give me enough trouble connecting to my comp/ipad/iphone. 1 regular homepod might just be the simpler, better choice.

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In our house we have Google's home speakers and the original Nest cameras and also some new cameras which only work with the Google home app and over the years I could see a gradual decline in reliability, functionality and just in general a decline in the usefulness of those things. The camera feed is so slow since Google took over Nest, it barely works with the Google home app and keeps cutting out, doesn't load at…

Same thing here. I dumped Alexa stuff 4ish years ago for Google Home devices and its become somewhat of a let down. They really don't seem to have anything new while Amazon keeps releasing new displays/speakers.

My Nest Hub Max will only show the camera in the old Nest app while it never loads in the Google Home app.

I'm thinking I may have to try something else in the near future.

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In our house we have Google's home speakers and the original Nest cameras and also some new cameras which only work with the Google home app and over the years I could see a gradual decline in reliability, functionality and just in general a decline in the usefulness of those things. The camera feed is so slow since Google took over Nest, it barely works with the Google home app and keeps cutting out, doesn't load at…

I have a mixed Google/Apple smart home environment. I don't know how fast Nest was before, but I find it slow-but-not-unusable nowadays, still useful enough that I wish Apple would introduce a HomePod with a screen. That said, I also wish Google would finally kill Nest and just go forward with Google Home, since it's a pain to have to remember which one configures some of my devices and which does the rest.

Apple needs hardware partners to more deeply invest in HomeKit, particularly in the camera space. It's coming along but still feels behind. A compatible camera (or one bridged to HomeKit) will show up on the AppleTV pretty quickly. The official HomeKit devices I have work consistently and well, and the ones I bridge in with HomeBridge work most of the time without intervention. It is super cool to ask Siri to open the garage door when I'm walking the dog and it's cold out. I would say it's viable, if not improving all the time.

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Happy to see this, I will be buying a couple of pairs if the sound quality is anything close to the prior generation. I love my current pair and have considered paying over retail for another eBay pair. I wish Siri were better -- it is good enough that I use it for stuff often but glitchy enough that I don't like trying new use cases.

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Seems like Apple executed the way Google should have with their Google Home Max. They've added stereo pairing, so you can have two of them sync up together and then connect them to an Apple TV 4k and you basically get a pretty nice wireless sound bar with Dolby Atmos enabled. Still, at $300 per pod, I really need Siri to do better than the "dumber than a bag of rocks" vibe she currently gives off for this to be at al…

I’m very much an anecdote here, but want to give a different perspective. I’m an Apple “fan” (at least, I have more of Apple’s devices than other brands), and I don’t want voice activation. I don’t feel comfortable something listening to all my intimate family conversations. Maybe Apple fans are more likely to be privacy conscious.

All that being said, it doesn’t need to be either or. They could have a great Siri product for those who want it, and allow it to be deactivated for those who don’t.

Re: Apple HomePod 2nd Generation

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been very happy with my homepod mini - doesn't seem like there's many additional features in the larger size one (except for higher sound levels?)

I enjoy the HomePod mini we were gifted in the kitchen. It sounds fine for what it is but Siri is basically a glorified kitchen timer as it fails at least 70% of the time at answering a question or even turning lights on and off.

Is it too much to ask to say “Siri turn off all lights except kitchen island” and expect it to do it? No matter how many times I have reconfigured things in the Home app it just can’t do it I have to ask it to turn off all lights then turn on the kitchen island :facepalm:

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