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Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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They say Claude is "more verbose", and claim this is a positive. I disagree. My biggest criticism of ChatGPT is that its answers are extraordinarily long and waffly. It sometimes reminds me of a scam artist trying to bamboozle me with words. I would much prefer short, concise, precise answers.

Adding "just code, don't talk" is a lifesaver

I'm glad chatgpt can't quit

Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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I like to compare these models to the Star Trek main computer core. The computer on a starship is explicitly not self aware, but has to interface with humans through mostly voice comms. It has to give accurate information for ship operations, something the chatbots so far still get wrong on occasion (or slip up details)

The ships computer also doesn’t seem to do entertainment like “tell a bedtime story” , since holography exists and does a better job. Now those might be closer to chatbots current evolution.

Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The response takes a long time to generate. The user could just sit there and stare at a blank response, or start reading in realtime as the response is generated.

I find it surprising that you can display any of it before the whole thing is done, since I would expect information dependencies between the start and the finish of a sentence or paragraphs. I have yet to really look into how these models work, they are black boxes to me.

From what I understand, these models generate the response one word at a time. Every time you see a new word appear at the end, the model is taking into consideration the entire chat history + its own answer so far to generate that next token.

Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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They say Claude is "more verbose", and claim this is a positive. I disagree. My biggest criticism of ChatGPT is that its answers are extraordinarily long and waffly. It sometimes reminds me of a scam artist trying to bamboozle me with words. I would much prefer short, concise, precise answers.

Afaik you can specify the response length!

Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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Semi offtopic, but for some time I have been dreaming of training chatbot to communicate in cuneiform or hieroglyphs to bring some old languages back alive. Could it be possible, using old tablets as training data?

I think we need a generic ai before we're able to do that as the data set is small and you would need to infer the rules. A human is able to learn rules way more efficiently than ChatGPT.

ChatGPT is just trained on a lot of data.

Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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post #22

I like to compare these models to the Star Trek main computer core. The computer on a starship is explicitly not self aware, but has to interface with humans through mostly voice comms. It has to give accurate information for ship operations, something the chatbots so far still get wrong on occasion (or slip up details) The ships computer also doesn’t seem to do entertainment like “tell a bedtime story” , since holog…

This varied over the course of the show. In the first season, some writers assumed the computer was self-aware, and it even addressed a crew member as "Sir" at one point, interrupting them when it had enough information.

In later seasons it acts more like, well, a computer. Geordi does play (verbal) games with it in one episode, however, while bored on a shuttlecraft trip.

Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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post #20

Semi offtopic, but for some time I have been dreaming of training chatbot to communicate in cuneiform or hieroglyphs to bring some old languages back alive. Could it be possible, using old tablets as training data?

No, you need billions of words to train a large language model.

They don't have to be in the output language.

Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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post #20

Semi offtopic, but for some time I have been dreaming of training chatbot to communicate in cuneiform or hieroglyphs to bring some old languages back alive. Could it be possible, using old tablets as training data?

No, you need billions of words to train a large language model.

Assuming all human languages have a common shared semantic meaning in latent space (I am flipping cause and effect here, but our purposes it doesn't really matter), and assuming that human languages largely follow the same pattern (this assumption is based on the fact that we can trace the roots of modern languages back to the Phoenician script), it is reasonable to assume that we can fine-tune a self supervised model on a tiny amount of data. (The emergent properties of a LLM is carrying a lot of weight here, many of the assumptions rely on the fact that LLM's emergent properties arise from the idea that the latent structure of various languages is learnt by the model)

Re: Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s rival to ChatGPT

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They say Claude is "more verbose", and claim this is a positive. I disagree. My biggest criticism of ChatGPT is that its answers are extraordinarily long and waffly. It sometimes reminds me of a scam artist trying to bamboozle me with words. I would much prefer short, concise, precise answers.

Totally agree, I often think of its writing style as a buzfeed coloumist on cocaine.

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