EV batteries alone could satisfy short-term grid storage demand as early as 2030
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Re: EV batteries alone could satisfy short-term grid storage demand as early as 2030
#2I think EV owners would need to find some level of compensation for the additional cycles they would incur. Electric vehicles are expensive because of the battery so deteriorating the life of one of the most costly parts of the car doesn't feel like a great solution.
Re: EV batteries alone could satisfy short-term grid storage demand as early as 2030
#3I think EV owners would need to find some level of compensation for the additional cycles they would incur. Electric vehicles are expensive because of the battery so deteriorating the life of one of the most costly parts of the car doesn't feel like a great solution.
I agree. This further degrades the meaning of owning private property.
Re: EV batteries alone could satisfy short-term grid storage demand as early as 2030
#4I assumed this meant selling EoL EV batteries back to providers who convert them into grid storage.
An EoL EV battery still has a decade or more of life as a grid-scale battery.
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#5Imagine the government draining your tank at the gas station instead of filling it.
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#6How did BritishVolt go bankrupt then?
Re: EV batteries alone could satisfy short-term grid storage demand as early as 2030
#7Love subsidizing public infrastructure directly as well as paying taxes!
Re: EV batteries alone could satisfy short-term grid storage demand as early as 2030
#8That this is still only an academic rumbling / home of the future[0] talk speaks volumes about how out-of-touch global finance remains.
[0] https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/tech-news-briefing/tapping-elec...
Re: EV batteries alone could satisfy short-term grid storage demand as early as 2030
#9I think EV owners would need to find some level of compensation for the additional cycles they would incur. Electric vehicles are expensive because of the battery so deteriorating the life of one of the most costly parts of the car doesn't feel like a great solution.
I agree. This further degrades the meaning of owning private property.
Energy price volatility will probably increase because natural sources are more volatile and other sources have spin up / down cycles. A car battery is like 3-4 days of continuous house usage. The car battery being used to top off the top 10% in short term pricing for energy would give a very nice ROI I expect. The rest is software? Don’t overcharge, don’t go under the limit I set for continuous availability as a mode of transport. And that’s all within reach in front of the meter, thus under my ownership. Heck, without self driving becoming common a family might even have 2 EVs on the driveway, giving a week of off grid potential.
Come to think of it - a harder part is how super local the grid is and energy pricing should become. In my somewhat affluent neighborhood in high summer the voltage rises too high and the supply of solar falls. And tragedy of the commons - we are still installing solar because it’s massively incentivized (2 years before investment returns itself). To solve this with EVs requires very granular prices. There might be clouds 50 km away. But again, those are software solvable issues. (I’m not holding my breath. It’s like IoT-superplus.)
Re: EV batteries alone could satisfy short-term grid storage demand as early as 2030
#10How did BritishVolt go bankrupt then?
Slowly, then suddenly.