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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by dabernathy89 »

nfriedly wrote: post #609
arepublicadoceu wrote: post #564

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5% left. Meaning that the ssd is almost dying.

I'd recommend taking it into an Apple store and asking them about it. I don't think I've ever in my life seen an SSD with less than 80-90% life left. Something has to have gone wrong for it to have burned up 95% of it's life in ~5 years of normal usage.

IIRC there was an issue early on with the M1 Macs that involved way higher than normal swap usage, and was potentially bad for SSDs. But I thought that was fixed within months.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by amatecha »

trynewideas wrote: post #517
amatecha wrote: post #466

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Well, to be fair, if you go to NVIDIA's site for "professional desktop workstations", the Quadro RTX 6000 is precisely what they show first: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/desktop-gr...

It's not? Are you getting A/B tested or something? I see the RTX 6000 Ada and A6000 in both the hero image and the first products listed. The Quadro 6000's a 24GB 4,608 CUDA-core PCIe 3x16 card[1] and the A6000 is a 10,752 CUDA-core 48GB PCIe 4x16 card.[2] I know NVIDIA's branding and product line naming sucks, but those clearly aren't the same cards, or even same generation of card. 1: https://www.nvidia.com/content…

I see. So NVIDIA has actually made a completely new GPU with the exact same product name, with a new architecture? That's cool. Totally clear and understandable.

Though there's one detail: Apple probably couldn't have tested against the new "Ada" one because it's not even available yet, so they still tested against the best available workstation GPU, unless I'm missing something.

"Notify Me" button on the page for RTX 6000 Ada says "You will receive an email when the new NVIDIA RTX 6000 Ada Generation graphics card becomes available." I think it's unrealistic to expect companies to benchmark against future products. (not saying you expect that haha)

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by AceJohnny2 »

sandstrom wrote: post #584

Will this computer finally support daisy-chaining? Also known as Multi-Stream Transport (MST), it's from the DisplayPort 1.2 spec. It's the ability to connecting two displays via one cable. Any 5+ year old PC has support for it. But your $3,000 Macbook Pro doesn't.

Probably not. Last I looked into it, it seemed like a driver issue, where macOS chooses to setup the MST screen as a mirror of the other MST display instead of a separate display.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by randomsofr »

djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

I'm really looking to get a similar setup. I don't think they would do a refresh to the Studio this year, or if they do, it would probably come at the end of the year.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by mrcarruthers »

DoingSomeThings wrote: post #589
agloeregrets wrote: post #536

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It's a spec bump, possibly meaningfully so but if you are on an Intel machine or want two monitors and can find a M1 14inch for ~$1500-$1700 that's a killer upgrade no matter what.

Does the M1 14inch support 2 monitors? I was under the impression every M-based laptop only supports a single external monitor.

It's only the air that is limited to a single monitor. I have an m1 pro and it's running two monitors daily. 4k, one 32:9 1440p ultrawide

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by amatecha »

michpoch wrote: post #508
amatecha wrote: post #466

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, to be fair, if you go to NVIDIA's site for "professional desktop workstations", the Quadro RTX 6000 is precisely what they show first: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/desktop-gr...

These are desktop cards. Apple is comparing laptops to laptops.

They are not. The person I responded to also quoted the text I will quote from Apple's page:

> Testing was conducted by Apple in November and December 2022 using preproduction 16-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M2 Max, 12-core CPU, 38-core GPU, 96GB of RAM, and 8TB SSD, as well as a production Intel Core i9-based PC system with NVIDIA Quadro RTX 6000 graphics with 24GB GDDR6 and the latest version of Windows 11 Pro available at the time of testing, and a production Intel Core i9-based PC system with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics with 16GB GDDR6 and the latest version of Windows 11 Home available at the time of testing.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by [deleted] »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #628
FollowingTheDao wrote: post #389

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"that will not get old very soon" No idea how you can write that with straight fingers.

I was using Blender on a 12 year old iMac until just a few weeks ago. Desktops don't seem to age as quickly as their portable counterparts (they are certainly less fragile).

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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by kika »

sandstrom wrote: post #584

Will this computer finally support daisy-chaining? Also known as Multi-Stream Transport (MST), it's from the DisplayPort 1.2 spec. It's the ability to connecting two displays via one cable. Any 5+ year old PC has support for it. But your $3,000 Macbook Pro doesn't.

I have M1 Max Macbook Pro and two monitors daisy chained. Mbook -> OWC TB4 hub -> BenQ 3220U -> TB to DP => Dell 2718Q

-> are TB cables => is DP (Display Port)

OWC hub is optional, scheme works without it the same. I use the hub to connect also external 10G network and a card reader.

NB: not an advice to buy BenQ PD3220U, see this: https://www.reddit.com/r/BenQ/comments/qsmvn2/pd3220u_kvm_bu... No solution so far. BenQ thinks it's the Apple bug, Apple probably thinks something, but doesn't tell.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

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