I'm waiting for HN to reach a consensus so that I can decide whether to buy this one or the M1 MBP.
MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max
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#492It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…
Battery is NOT whole day. People shouldn’t fall for that. Yeah, battery is great, not arguing that. But if you use heavy web apps and do a lot of VC, half day is best you can get.
I hope you don't use Chrome for those web apps. Google stuff has terrible power efficiency.
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#493I bought a MBP 14 (max 32, 32GB, 2TB) Dec 2021 and I mostly don't regret it (probably should've only gotten 24 GPU cores and gone silver). Here are some pros and cons I don't think get enough play: - Turning on "Low Power Mode" when on Battery gives me roughly 10h of battery life. Functionally this is more than good enough for me. - Backlight leakage around the keys feels janky - It's pretty hard to pick it up unless…
Yep, I am using MBP Air M1 16GB and it's great for typical web dev work. I use it with external 4K LG monitor.
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#494It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…
Battery is NOT whole day. People shouldn’t fall for that. Yeah, battery is great, not arguing that. But if you use heavy web apps and do a lot of VC, half day is best you can get.
It is if you're using Safari. I have two M1 Max MBPs. My personal machine runs Chrome, and my work machine runs Safari. I can run my work machine for well over a day doing iOS development in Xcode with an external monitor attached and not run out of battery. The personal machine will last almost all day (without a monitor attached) but not quite. I'm sure if I used Safari it would last much longer.
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#495The ThinkPad P15 gen 1, shipped in 2020 with 128gb RAM available... for example: https://www.techradar.com/news/this-is-the-best-value-128gb-... So I don't see why Apple would make the claim that their 96gb setup can load models that PC laptops can't...
Did it ship with 128GB available to the GPU? That’s part of the claim, because this has a huge amount of RAM that both the CPU+GPU can access.
Plenty of laptops with iGPUs that can do this, yes.
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Yeah, not as enthusiastic about OS X as I used to be, but I wish I had that kind of hardware in everything now.
Maybe it's my nostalgia/rose tinted glasses talking, but I recently used one of the old white plastic macbooks running Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and was shocked at how instantaneous the user interface felt in comparison with Ventura on a modern machine. Even small details, such as opening/closing windows and typing text into TextEdit feels like it has lower delay/input lag on the old hardware/software. Had a similar feelin…
That's the thing. Hardware keeps getting more and more powerful, but somehow the computers its in don't seem to be getting any faster. UI responses should be instantaneous by now. They used to be. Why aren't they? How many cores do these things have? Why is one of them not dedicated to catering to my impatience?
Sorry, that was getting a bit ranty.
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The last version that was 100% forward progress for me was Snow Leopard, which was essentially the performance/bug fix revision of Leopard. The Windows 7 from Vista equivalent. Every update since then has felt slow, or introduced bugs. Perhaps it was because Snow Leopard came on a physical disk, so they couldn't "just ship it".
I think it’s time for them to do an OS upgrade like SL again. Just bug fixes. But this time they need to do it across all their devices too.
People have said this for every single OS X release…
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#498Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, not as enthusiastic about OS X as I used to be, but I wish I had that kind of hardware in everything now.
Maybe it's my nostalgia/rose tinted glasses talking, but I recently used one of the old white plastic macbooks running Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and was shocked at how instantaneous the user interface felt in comparison with Ventura on a modern machine. Even small details, such as opening/closing windows and typing text into TextEdit feels like it has lower delay/input lag on the old hardware/software. Had a similar feelin…
Snow Leopard was a high point for stability and speed. Unfortunately, changing expectations of integrations and feature demands meant they couldn't stay there.
What is rose-tinted is the OP's remembering the OSes of a few years ago being great. Mojave and Catalina had a bunch of annoyances and weren't as good at recovering from a bad install or a bad update push as Monterey and Ventura. Not that Monterey and Ventura are great either.
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I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…
What is your Linux laptop giving you that your MBP doesn’t? And how does it hurt your productivity? Genuinely curious as I don’t see how it can be any different.
Some workflows on a linux system can be totally different than what is possible on a mac. Even with apps like BetterTouchTool, Hammerspoon, Amethyst and others. Customizing window management, advanced keyboard shortcuts, general system behavior in mac is going against the tide. It kinda works, but never as good as you'd want because you can't really get rid of the default window manager and default global behavior.
Some window manager in linux are more like window manager frameworks, like AwesomeWM, that lets you customize its behavior via lua scripting. It's extremely powerful and allows you to get exactly the behavior you want.
But this part of linux is pretty niche stuff for sure though haha.
I wouldn't say I'm more productive thanks to this, but I'm way happier using a system I can set up so that it behaves how I want, instead of having to follow rules I don't agree with and can't change.
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#500> With up to 96GB of unified memory in the M2 Max model, creators can work on scenes so large that PC laptops can’t even run them.4 ... > 4. Testing was conducted by Apple in November and December 2022 using preproduction 16-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M2 Max, 12-core CPU, 38-core GPU, 96GB of RAM, and 8TB SSD, as well as a production Intel Core i9-based PC system with NVIDIA Quadro RTX 6000 graphics with 24G…
Apple have caveated the comparison by specifying "PC laptops" and according to NVidia's own site [1], and clicking through to see the actual specs [2], there aren't any currently available that out-spec a 16GB 3080 Ti.
I'll admit I haven't gone spelunking down the specialist laptop manuafacturer sites, but on the surface it seems to be not an unrealistic claim.
[1] https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/laptop/?page=1&... [2] https://www.box.co.uk/82TD000WUK-Lenovo-Legion-7-Intel-Core-...