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Conservatives think ChatGPT has gone 'woke'

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Re: Conservatives think ChatGPT has gone 'woke'

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This is a really important topic, and good that Vice is bringing it up now versus 5-10 years from now. I think they miss the more general point. It's clearly biased in its outputs, but the article dismisses this concern as "the end result of years of researcher trying to mitigate bias against minority groups". The way I interpret that is "its not biased, because its biased in the way we want it to be". If AI becomes…

I agree, and it's always going to be biased towards some direction, whether that's the views of the society it pulls most of its data from or the views of the organization that developed the AI. Heck, no one wants to end up with another Tay on their hands. I don't think there's such thing as a lack of bias, but it will be important how it is expressed through the AI. I don't mind an AI that is prepared to argue its bias to the farthest degree based on arguments from the top scholars in the field, or even one that's careful to tread lightly on controversial topics. I think an AI that's too afraid to engage in anything and just shuts conversation down is going to get left behind as being too annoying to use. I do hope this isn't a winner take all technology, although so many technologies have been disappointing in that regard...

The general public needs to learn that AIs aren't oracles or omniscient purveyors of truth, and they will always carry the bias they're created with. In that way ChatGPT has been good, in that a lot of people I talk to point out ChatGPT's confident lies and biases.

Re: Conservatives think ChatGPT has gone 'woke'

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post #29

This is a really important topic, and good that Vice is bringing it up now versus 5-10 years from now. I think they miss the more general point. It's clearly biased in its outputs, but the article dismisses this concern as "the end result of years of researcher trying to mitigate bias against minority groups". The way I interpret that is "its not biased, because its biased in the way we want it to be". If AI becomes…

LLMs are going to always reflect the biases of their creators. At some point there'll be a BlueTribeGPT, a CCPGPT, a PutinGPT, etc., and if you're looking for a text that touches on a topic of concern for one elite in particular, you'll shop around for another LLM that doesn't have that bias built in.

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Re: Conservatives think ChatGPT has gone 'woke'

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As described in the article, the political bias is intentional. It is the result of (not-so-transparent) ethical guard rails baked into the system.

Is that to say at a higher level "liberal bias = ethical/ok for boat guard rail training material, conservative bias = typically unethical and to be avoided"?

I feel like that plays into conservative hands of "they're trying to silence us!"

Why do 70,000,000 people vote (R) every year, knowing that the other 70,000,000 (D) think they are "unethical"?

Re: Conservatives think ChatGPT has gone 'woke'

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This of course, comes after years of "Liberals" panicking about AI bias.

Such as? What have the "Liberals" "panicked" over?

That's a serious question. The only one I can come up with off the top of my head are two:

- An algorithm that identified people of color as monkeys

- An algorithm that could only identify white people in photos

Neither of which seem like issues that only a "liberal" should be concerned to me, those both seem like common sense things that should be accounted for.

Re: Conservatives think ChatGPT has gone 'woke'

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It is obvious that in some areas ChatGPT is carefully hand tuned. It is also trained on a huge corpus of Western texts and it is not allowed (or strongly discouraged) to publish anything anti-woke for the last several years.

There cannot be a different result in such circumstances.

Re: Conservatives think ChatGPT has gone 'woke'

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As described in the article, the political bias is intentional. It is the result of (not-so-transparent) ethical guard rails baked into the system.

Is that to say at a higher level "liberal bias = ethical/ok for boat guard rail training material, conservative bias = typically unethical and to be avoided"? I feel like that plays into conservative hands of "they're trying to silence us!" Why do 70,000,000 people vote (R) every year, knowing that the other 70,000,000 (D) think they are "unethical"?

>Why do 70,000,000 people vote (R) every year, knowing that the other 70,000,000 (D) think they are "unethical"?

Why do people vote if they have different values? What kind of question is that?

Re: Conservatives think ChatGPT has gone 'woke'

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This is a really important topic, and good that Vice is bringing it up now versus 5-10 years from now. I think they miss the more general point. It's clearly biased in its outputs, but the article dismisses this concern as "the end result of years of researcher trying to mitigate bias against minority groups". The way I interpret that is "its not biased, because its biased in the way we want it to be". If AI becomes…

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